What if it’s just a good joke from early in his career which resonates with people, and reposting some of his better work doesn’t actually mean you’re writing history
The problem comes in that there’s no clean way to promote a tainted subject. We aren’t out here talking about the (VERY) minor positive qualities in Hitler’s pre-politics paintings, or whether Ronald Reagan had decent acting chops.
There are plenty of other, less-massively-problematic comedians, artists, politicians, actors, and other public figures to promote and laud the work of that we really can just set aside the possibly decent contributions of otherwise bad people. It just doesn’t matter enough. Find someone cool who did a good thing and talk about that instead.
Is it promoting someone to laugh at an old joke? I don’t think anyone is saying this makes Dave chappel good?
I happen to be familiar with chappels work but let’s say I wasn’t. Am I supposed to get this random tweets sources before I laugh to check if I’m allowed to enjoy this artist?
Hitler loved dogs. Now think about how Trump is the only US president to have no pets, and dislike animals. Trump has less empathy — is more sociopathic — than Hitler.
Why is quoting a good thing they said somehow interpreted as rewriting history, especially when it’s actually true that they said it? That’s almost by definition, not “rewriting” history
It can be taken as an endorsement of his other views too and I’m sure there’s plenty of people that aren’t shit head bigots that have had a similar realization about the vulnerability of women.
No I fucking don’t, fuck Dave Chappelle, he’s transphobic piece of bigot shit, his Clayton Bigsby ass brought a fucking nazi on stage, he doesn’t deserve anything but fucking derision.
I mean he literally had Elon Musk come on stage and mocked the crowd for booing him.
I agree that he had good takes in the past and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the OOP here, but the person you’re replying to isn’t inventing anything either. Old school Dave Chappelle was based and funny. Current Dave Chappelle is a piece of shit. I think both of those things are OK to acknowledge.
Yeah the guy is a huge piece of shit, so let’s not try to rewrite history by spreading nice little stories made to make him look good.
What if it’s just a good joke from early in his career which resonates with people, and reposting some of his better work doesn’t actually mean you’re writing history
It’s advertising him, and why would you want to do that?
Assume I didn’t know who Chappel was. How am supposed to know I’m not allowed to like this tweet?
Liking his tweet is one thing, reposting it is endorsing it, and it’s generally a god idea to check who someone is before endorsing them
It’s still a good joke and it’s still a poignant message. It doesn’t become not those because Chapelle sucks.
If you attribute it to him, yes it does.
This is a stupid way to live
The problem comes in that there’s no clean way to promote a tainted subject. We aren’t out here talking about the (VERY) minor positive qualities in Hitler’s pre-politics paintings, or whether Ronald Reagan had decent acting chops.
There are plenty of other, less-massively-problematic comedians, artists, politicians, actors, and other public figures to promote and laud the work of that we really can just set aside the possibly decent contributions of otherwise bad people. It just doesn’t matter enough. Find someone cool who did a good thing and talk about that instead.
Is it promoting someone to laugh at an old joke? I don’t think anyone is saying this makes Dave chappel good?
I happen to be familiar with chappels work but let’s say I wasn’t. Am I supposed to get this random tweets sources before I laugh to check if I’m allowed to enjoy this artist?
The net negative reaction my comment received suggests I’m not well-placed to respond to your question.
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Personally, I think ignoring that sort of complexity leaves you with a shallower understanding of the subject matter.
I wouldn’t say I’m ignoring it, but that I’m usually choosing not to publicly engage with it.
Hmm, that is fair
Why are people allergic to the idea that bad people can say good and correct things too
Hitler loved to play with kittens! He carried them around in his shirt pockets to keep them cozy and warm.
Hitler loved dogs. Now think about how Trump is the only US president to have no pets, and dislike animals. Trump has less empathy — is more sociopathic — than Hitler.
Hitler also didn’t rape kids.
I do not like this picture, Charlie. It’s smug aura mocks me!
He molested his cousin iirc.
Hitler? Can’t say I ever heard or read that one…
Everyone says good stuff once in a while, so why focus on the pieces of shit exactly?
Why is quoting a good thing they said somehow interpreted as rewriting history, especially when it’s actually true that they said it? That’s almost by definition, not “rewriting” history
It can be taken as an endorsement of his other views too and I’m sure there’s plenty of people that aren’t shit head bigots that have had a similar realization about the vulnerability of women.
Look, to be properly just, you need to aknowledge the good too in some peoole, whatever little they may have.
No I fucking don’t, fuck Dave Chappelle, he’s transphobic piece of bigot shit, his Clayton Bigsby ass brought a fucking nazi on stage, he doesn’t deserve anything but fucking derision.
There we go, that’s the issue. People nowadays completely lost the plot, will downright make up crimes and get angry at them at this point.
You can’t see what this implies long-term.
It won’t take away from anything bad he did if you did talk about the good.
I mean he literally had Elon Musk come on stage and mocked the crowd for booing him.
I agree that he had good takes in the past and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the OOP here, but the person you’re replying to isn’t inventing anything either. Old school Dave Chappelle was based and funny. Current Dave Chappelle is a piece of shit. I think both of those things are OK to acknowledge.
Louis CK is also a piece of shit, but he said similarly true things about men and women. Ask him how he knows.
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