I would disown my kid for being a murderer if it was not for reason of insanity or self protection or otherwise justifiable, yes. Or a torturer, etc. There are certain extreme moral lines that I would have to acknowledge that my child as I knew them did not exist. But they are certainly of the most extreme, it would be very difficult to do so, and it would be very rare circumstances.
There’s legal definitions and whatnot but my definition is more like “is there something deeply wrong with you?” Which a serial killer clears with ease.
There’s a lot deeply wrong with me but I’m still not clinically insane. Insane people genuinely don’t have control over their actions thus cannot be held to account, only put away for public safety. I think calling serial killers insane both absolves them of responsibility and dilutes the meaning of the word for people actually suffering serious mental illnesses.
“Deeply” is both present in what I wrote and also subjective. I don’t think “insane” implies no control exactly. These things are more complicated than that.
A person experiencing a fullblown psychotic episode is beyond the point of self control, and frequently self recognition. It’s a seriously rare occurrence, and it usually doesn’t result in the death of anyone but the sufferer. I just think the distinction should be made between people who may be highly disturbed or psychopathic, or on a revenge streak or whatever reason they have, and people suffering a very serious mental illness that in the midst of an episode wound up killing somebody.
To those wondering, the legal definition of sanity is basically “do you know how long you’ll get for this crime?”
Not a lawyer, all the family lawyers are civil, but I lived down the street from a family of norteños and a couple houses further from a family of sureños. Life was interesting growing up.
I would disown my kid for being a murderer if it was not for reason of insanity or self protection or otherwise justifiable, yes. Or a torturer, etc. There are certain extreme moral lines that I would have to acknowledge that my child as I knew them did not exist. But they are certainly of the most extreme, it would be very difficult to do so, and it would be very rare circumstances.
There are serial killers who aren’t insane?
Depends on your definition of sanity I suppose, but legally? Yea, most of them are sane.
There’s legal definitions and whatnot but my definition is more like “is there something deeply wrong with you?” Which a serial killer clears with ease.
There’s a lot deeply wrong with me but I’m still not clinically insane. Insane people genuinely don’t have control over their actions thus cannot be held to account, only put away for public safety. I think calling serial killers insane both absolves them of responsibility and dilutes the meaning of the word for people actually suffering serious mental illnesses.
“Deeply” is both present in what I wrote and also subjective. I don’t think “insane” implies no control exactly. These things are more complicated than that.
A person experiencing a fullblown psychotic episode is beyond the point of self control, and frequently self recognition. It’s a seriously rare occurrence, and it usually doesn’t result in the death of anyone but the sufferer. I just think the distinction should be made between people who may be highly disturbed or psychopathic, or on a revenge streak or whatever reason they have, and people suffering a very serious mental illness that in the midst of an episode wound up killing somebody.
I mean yeah, true.
What if they objectively made the world a better place? E.g. they were picking off the billionaires?
You’re just describing the premise for the book/show Dexter.
To those wondering, the legal definition of sanity is basically “do you know how long you’ll get for this crime?”
Not a lawyer, all the family lawyers are civil, but I lived down the street from a family of norteños and a couple houses further from a family of sureños. Life was interesting growing up.
Dude I know it’s a tautology and a meme but society is insane. You have to be crazy to be sane in this world.
Yes