• Some of these comments are wild.

    The OS should not at all stop me from doing what I want to do. Ever. Not even if that means I can fuck it up.

    They can warn me when I attempt to do things that could fuck shit up. They can make it a bit harder to navigate to certain things so I’m less likely to fuck shit up. But it’s my god damn hardware. I should be able to run and configure the software on it as I see fit.

    • Mossheart@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      But we subsidised the cost of your phone so we could make sweet sweet recurring revenue off your usage habits and targeted advertising!

      You wouldn’t want to take that away from us would you? Won’t SOMEBODY think of the shareholders?!

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        7 months ago

        I’m getting really sick of products being only available subsidized by a level of invasiveness that should be illegal.

        The government should need an individualized warrant to purchase my data. And honestly Google should need one to collect it

  • tomenzgg@midwest.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    I’m probably going to spam this around a bit, since most people don’t seem to know about it, but a reminder that FuriLabs has a (GNU+)Linux phone with decent spec.s and the ability to run Android app.s (from what I’ve heard) pretty decently: https://furilabs.com/

    Biggest drawback is it’s based on Halium. Usual growing pains of a new product/company apply but apparently the company is pretty responsive and their dev.s have worked with customers to get things like calling working with the carrier and bands of their country where it hasn’t worked before so improvements move pretty quickly.

    Collection of different experiences I’ve variously seen online over the last year or so:

    I don’t own one, myself, so I can’t give any personal experience but I’ve seen it around for a few years now but most people don’t seem to even know about it. Maybe there’s a reason for that? But none I’ve ever seen anyone say.

    • BagelEmbezzler@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      7 months ago

      Intriguing! I’m concerned about the “advanced power management algorithms” they’re putting up front and center without clarifying. My current phone (OnePlus) is very aggressive about that and just kills my alarm clock in the middle of the night once in a while and breaks other apps, even with optimizations disabled and the phone plugged in. Furiphone isn’t listed on DontKillMyApp and I didn’t see anything with a quick search, have you heard anything about how it does on that?

      Also that size, oof. Mine is already too big and this is noticeably bigger in all 3 dimensions.

      • tomenzgg@midwest.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        7 months ago

        Ooof; yeah: that’d be a dealbreaker for me, too. I’ve got a OnePlus, as well (Nord N20), and, while I can definitely tell there’s some battery optimization going on, it’s never killed my alarms; it’s the only alarm clock I use so somewhat vital.

        Unfortunately, I haven’t heard anything (yet). Most of anything I’ve heard about them has been from “static” sources (like the above); I don’t hang out in any chatrooms or the like they may have. I do know they have an account on the Fediverse, though (@furilabs@fosstodon.org), so you may be able to ask them directly?

        • BagelEmbezzler@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          7 months ago

          Nice, thanks for the tip.

          Unfortunately I think the size might be the deal breaker though, just remembered how my current one literally only fits in my pocket if I rotate it in at the exact right angle. 8 extra mm in both directions and there’s no hope.

          I’m not ready for pants shopping again already, taking these ones in took 10 hours T_T

  • krunklom@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    7 months ago

    They claim this is about security but when your system is compromised there is fuck all they will do to help you.

    Fucking hypocritical, control-hungry pricks.

    • shalafi@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      It’s about the security of their brand. No sane company wants people walking around, talking about shit their phone is because it keeps getting infected.

  • Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    Megacorps gonna megacorp.
    Monopolies gonna monopoly.

    We can fight these giants by not using their services & products.

    It only gets harder to fight them the more we give in.

    • humanamerican@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      I can’t even get people to switch to LibreOffice, not cuz they use some advanced MS Office feature but because the interface “looks dated”. So they’d rather pay a subscription for life to use software that spies on them than download free software that does what they need but has a 2010s style interface.

      Humans suck so much.

      • 0x0@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        7 months ago

        because the interface “looks dated”.

        The real issue is M$ intentionally not following standards, so that opening an Office doc may or may not properly render in other suites. Hooray for EEE. Fuckers.

  • EldenLord@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    7 months ago

    I finally want to switch to android and boom: Custom ROMs and “sideloading” gets swept off the platter. Well ok I guess I‘ll just wait for a good linux mobile OS

  • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    The number of people I encounter, even on Lemmy, that genuinely believe and rigorously argue that being able to install or distribute software on devices you own is actually bad because “security” is beyond horrifying to me. They have been brainwashed into thinking that corporate monopolies are not only acceptable but desirable because you can completely and blindly trust Mom’s Old Fashioned Robot Oil to make all your decisions for you, for a modest fee and no opting out, of course.

    This is why society is collapsing.

    • madcaesar@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      Dude, I’ve been fighting this fight for over 10 years starting on reddit.

      The amount of people, even supposedly?!? tech savy people that bootlick and excuse corporate behaviour is maddening. To the point makes you want to be conspiratorial and think they are saboteurs.

      What I will never EVER understand is being loyal and “loving” a company. No matter if it’s Apple, Samsung, Google they ARE NOT your friends. In fact they are the exact opposite and will make your life worse if it means they can squeeze an extra cent out of you.

  • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    7 months ago

    We really really need an open OS for mobile phones that is actually competitive with commercial offerings.

    • troed@fedia.io
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      7 months ago

      I don’t think the OS is the problem - it’s that some of the critical service/apps people rely on (government ID, banking) only exist for the closed systems. Third party OS’s try to “solve” it through various container approaches running the official apps, but since they see that as a security problem it’s not something you can fully trust to be working at all times.

  • gedaliyah@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    7 months ago

    You know, it’s true - I have never heard a Linux user refer to something as sideloading, even though Linux is the platform that originated official software repositories.

    • grue@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      The key thing to understand is that there’s a big fucking difference between a “repository” and an “app store.” One is designed for the convenience of users; the other is designed to exploit them.