• RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
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    Immigrants aren’t a monolith in good or bad. Some are collecting social benefits way above the average, some are often employed in very low paying jobs, these two have some overlap. Some are highly paid workers brought over for specific roles, earning well above the average etc.

    If those complaints are considered separately as they imo should be then they are both valid concerns.

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    Not defending the message, but there’s not a single immigrant, so both can be true.

    Of course it’s bullshit, but this joke fails to address the real failures of the argument.

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    17 hours ago

    This is fucking RIGHTEOUS!!!

    Great meme. Simple, elegant, poignant.

    Nice work, OP

  • Also related is Schrödinger’s gangster (or gangsta if you’re urban). A feral teen delinquent who only respects violence and force, and also a don of global renown who runs an international racketeering syndicate.

    I believe the whole Saints Row series of games capitalizes on this dichotomy.

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      Precisely. Everybody wants a below-minimum-wage off-the-books gardener/nanny/seasonal worker, but at the same time build a wall.

      You’re welcome to do the work but don’t complain, don’t ogle our sons or daughters, simply be invisible or else.

      It’s such a fucked-up situation.

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    MAGA learned this technique from previous Nazis: “The Jews are inferior in every way to us Aryan supermen. That’s why they’re the greatest threat we face…”

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    Easy explanation: all of their constituents are equally immigrant disposable, they just don’t realize it until they get personally fucked by the politician they voted for.

    The only “safe” people are the ones bankrolling them.

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      The only “safe” people are the ones bankrolling them.

      They’re not safe either. If their money or political charisma runs out, there isn’t going to be anyone there to turn to. Look at the my pillow guy as an example.

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    The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies. When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.

    https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/umberto-eco-ur-fascism

    Eco 's essay on Ur-Fascism is worth reading

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      Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”

      The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

      Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”

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    Racism is a false premise. All conclusions derived from it may be perfectly logical and absurd at the same time. This is why logic is so valued by people with dogshit views.

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      Sometimes those concerns can just be economic, both personal and on country level. Often anti-immigration has racism in it though.

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    The welfare thing is what happens when racism and misogyny intersect. They imagine women having as many kids as possible just to get more money.

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      And then they constantly cry because women don’t want to have kids in this mysoginist dystopian hellscape

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    They dropped the lazy angle long ago, doesn’t jive with anyone’s lived experience.