Memes and reactionary comments aside, can anyone explain how the shutdown came to be given that all levels of government are currently controlled by a single party? I can’t find a reliable explainer
There is a filinuster rule that used to let the minority party in either house stop bills by speaking for extremely long periods of time during debate. Over the years the House got rid of it and the Senate’s version morphed into treating the announcement that someone would filibuster as the same thing so declaring it effectively shuts down anything that doesn’t have overwhelming support.
Republicans keep it because they can obstruct even if they don’t control any branch. Dems keep it because they want it for leverage to negotiate, not to obstruct. The difference is that over the last few decades Republicans will negotiate and then filibuster anyway so the tool as a whole benefits them while being a negative for Dems who can’t overcome it to pass effective legislation that would help people.
The filibuster is a turd in a punch bowl. It takes a lot less effort to shit in a punch bowl than it takes to make the punch, and one party wants to shit in the punch bowl, even when they are hosting the party.
As I understand it: To avoid the shutdown, Republicans needed 60 votes. They have 53 senators. Only one Democrat voted with the Republicans. The Democrats had some healthcare related demands that weren’t met, so the shutdown went ahead.
Memes and reactionary comments aside, can anyone explain how the shutdown came to be given that all levels of government are currently controlled by a single party? I can’t find a reliable explainer
There is a filinuster rule that used to let the minority party in either house stop bills by speaking for extremely long periods of time during debate. Over the years the House got rid of it and the Senate’s version morphed into treating the announcement that someone would filibuster as the same thing so declaring it effectively shuts down anything that doesn’t have overwhelming support.
Republicans keep it because they can obstruct even if they don’t control any branch. Dems keep it because they want it for leverage to negotiate, not to obstruct. The difference is that over the last few decades Republicans will negotiate and then filibuster anyway so the tool as a whole benefits them while being a negative for Dems who can’t overcome it to pass effective legislation that would help people.
The filibuster is a turd in a punch bowl. It takes a lot less effort to shit in a punch bowl than it takes to make the punch, and one party wants to shit in the punch bowl, even when they are hosting the party.
As I understand it: To avoid the shutdown, Republicans needed 60 votes. They have 53 senators. Only one Democrat voted with the Republicans. The Democrats had some healthcare related demands that weren’t met, so the shutdown went ahead.
Ok, so in reality then, the meme doesn’t quite fit. Like I’ll bash a dictator at any chance, but this argument doesn’t hold in a discussion.
The reason the rules were introduced is to force compromises.
They come up with their bill completely excluding Democrats from negotiations. Why would they vote for it?
BTW: Biden somehow avoided shutdowns, I wonder how…
By governing in the slightest. He didn’t declare himself permanent God king like these fascist fucks
chud voice “You mean presserdent autopen?”
Republicans set this bill up to fail. Either they think they can outrun it using the media or think democrats will cave.
They think Democrats will cave, like they did in March or April.
I hope they won’t, for all intents and purposes government was effectively shut down for few months now.