Well, I hate to stick up for a cop, but this is the only cop on scene who actually tried to deal with the shooter. In this picture he is receiving a call, or texts, I can’t remember (turns out it was both), from his wife who is a teacher at the school. Not long after this image he was tackled, and taken into protective custody by the other cops, physically forcing him to stand down. His wife was shot and dying while communicating to him in this picture.
Your wording is weird. I can’t tell if you are trying to call my motives into question, questioning if this story about this cop is true, or what exactly.
I mean let’s honest here, the other side of the story is that it took a cop that idolizes a vigilante that operates outside the law to actually do anything. Still an indictment of the whole operation.
Or that he had someone who was in danger that made it personal for him. I may be an asshole, but curious if he would have done anything if his wife wasn’t in there
The idea that “operating outside the law” is inherently something bad is absolutely fucked mentality
if you pretend really hard and imagine there’s not governmental corruption, i think that’s where you end up at that mentality. at least that was what i was raised to believe, but we got exposed young to police corruption.
so if the enforcers of the law might be corrupt i thought, maybe the writers are too. so i did what i could to become a writer and get some of that sweet sweet corruption money, as police often have to work on their feet. turns out i was too menial a public servant to pay, dammit.
That said, having his fellow cops prevent him from saving his wife’s life might give him a better understanding of Punisher. I wonder how he feels about cops now
Yeah, like in this case where one side was a single child murdering asshole, and the other side was a small army of pussy cops who stood around and listened while he blasted a bunch of kids. A fucking little girl did more to resolve the situation than they did.
Of course there are. You don’t have to value both sides, nor are they automatically equal or even comparable.
In their own minds though, people who supported slavery weren’t all steepling their fingers and giggling to themselves about how they were going to cause generations of trauma. They had reasons, selfish and brutish as they were, and it’s useful to learn what those are so that we can prevent people from dehumanizing others like that ever again.
Reports from the time show he was in heated argument about going in, and was detained when shooting started and he tried to force himself in.
This isn’t a defense of what happened at Uvalde. I am just pointing out that the meme chose the one guy who physically tried to do something to use as the poster child for their inaction. I am sure if we could use a time machine to see his whole career he did a bunch of terrible shit that ruined people’s lives when her either didn’t have too, or was legally barred from doing so, but got away with it because he is the system’s enforcer.
But is the fact he only wanted to do something because the current situation directly impacted him? As though if his wife didn’t work there he’d be sitting back laughing at the situation regardless?
Well, we can never know that. As my opinion goes for him being a cop, that is somewhere in this thread, I am just pointing out that this particular meme, calling out police inaction, makes the poster child the only cop that tried. That was just the whole point.
okay he can have the punisher for a phone background.
spoiler
I mean its practically a punisher origin story. they are the one “good” cop on the force, and maybe not, maybe not perfectly so. misplaced sensibilities, class identity, etc. build them flawed. then its Uvalde. but this time its not some black or brown kid suffering as a consequence of the system you help prop up. its your wife and child, the actually good person in society, and a doe-eyed innocent child. and the cops around you, they won’t let you save her. they wont let you redeem yourself. they prevent you from being even the pretend hero society projects onto you. The shots are ringing out and you can hear their screams, and the system has you anchored to the ground to protect itself.
the phone screen background isn’t who they are, its who they will become.
Well, I hate to stick up for a cop, but this is the only cop on scene who actually tried to deal with the shooter. In this picture he is receiving a call, or texts, I can’t remember (turns out it was both), from his wife who is a teacher at the school. Not long after this image he was tackled, and taken into protective custody by the other cops, physically forcing him to stand down. His wife was shot and dying while communicating to him in this picture.
For real?
Having just left one lemmy post with a pic in OP that was BS and invalidating the real concerns, I find this hard to believe.
Your wording is weird. I can’t tell if you are trying to call my motives into question, questioning if this story about this cop is true, or what exactly.
So glad we have the cops to prevent other cops from doing their jobs, something might’ve gotten done.
One good apple can spoil the whole bunch 🤷♂️
So many things could be avoided if people just remembered that there two sides to every story.
I mean let’s honest here, the other side of the story is that it took a cop that idolizes a vigilante that operates outside the law to actually do anything. Still an indictment of the whole operation.
Or that he had someone who was in danger that made it personal for him. I may be an asshole, but curious if he would have done anything if his wife wasn’t in there
The idea that “operating outside the law” is inherently something bad is absolutely fucked mentality.
The poor man who steals his bread is “operating outside the law” but is still righteous in his actions.
Stop letting “the law” be your barometer for what is or isn’t right or just. It doesn’t belong anywhere near the discussion.
this is true, but we’re talking about a cop, an agent of the state and the law. in this case he should be held up to that standard
if you pretend really hard and imagine there’s not governmental corruption, i think that’s where you end up at that mentality. at least that was what i was raised to believe, but we got exposed young to police corruption.
so if the enforcers of the law might be corrupt i thought, maybe the writers are too. so i did what i could to become a writer and get some of that sweet sweet corruption money, as police often have to work on their feet. turns out i was too menial a public servant to pay, dammit.
Great point
I will say though, it would be cool if this guy actually knew who Punisher actually is instead of just grabbing the logo like the rest do.
Edit: I hate autocorrect so goddamn much. I swear to god it got worse since AI got popular.
That said, having his fellow cops prevent him from saving his wife’s life might give him a better understanding of Punisher. I wonder how he feels about cops now
If he did, he wouldn’t be a cop in the first place.
Cops who are fans of the Punisher have absolutely zero media literacy.
Yeah, like in this case where one side was a single child murdering asshole, and the other side was a small army of pussy cops who stood around and listened while he blasted a bunch of kids. A fucking little girl did more to resolve the situation than they did.
Slavery? Two sides to that one, hoss?
Of course there are. You don’t have to value both sides, nor are they automatically equal or even comparable.
In their own minds though, people who supported slavery weren’t all steepling their fingers and giggling to themselves about how they were going to cause generations of trauma. They had reasons, selfish and brutish as they were, and it’s useful to learn what those are so that we can prevent people from dehumanizing others like that ever again.
That’s not allowed here
But wasn’t that like 90 minutes after the cops had just been standing in the hallway?
Reports from the time show he was in heated argument about going in, and was detained when shooting started and he tried to force himself in.
This isn’t a defense of what happened at Uvalde. I am just pointing out that the meme chose the one guy who physically tried to do something to use as the poster child for their inaction. I am sure if we could use a time machine to see his whole career he did a bunch of terrible shit that ruined people’s lives when her either didn’t have too, or was legally barred from doing so, but got away with it because he is the system’s enforcer.
But is the fact he only wanted to do something because the current situation directly impacted him? As though if his wife didn’t work there he’d be sitting back laughing at the situation regardless?
Well, we can never know that. As my opinion goes for him being a cop, that is somewhere in this thread, I am just pointing out that this particular meme, calling out police inaction, makes the poster child the only cop that tried. That was just the whole point.
okay he can have the punisher for a phone background.
spoiler
I mean its practically a punisher origin story. they are the one “good” cop on the force, and maybe not, maybe not perfectly so. misplaced sensibilities, class identity, etc. build them flawed. then its Uvalde. but this time its not some black or brown kid suffering as a consequence of the system you help prop up. its your wife and child, the actually good person in society, and a doe-eyed innocent child. and the cops around you, they won’t let you save her. they wont let you redeem yourself. they prevent you from being even the pretend hero society projects onto you. The shots are ringing out and you can hear their screams, and the system has you anchored to the ground to protect itself.
the phone screen background isn’t who they are, its who they will become.
I want to read this comic
Ok. Thanks for the clarification.