I don’t see what factual argument is being made in ANY of the three layers of this meme. Or how Trump is mentioned or involved at all. “The ship has arrived at port” with a photo of the ship. Surely your issue isn’t with that. “My God, the state of that ship” is not a factual assertion of anything, except that the ship externally looks pretty rough in that photo after that long deployment. And “A passenger on the titanic had a better experience” is is obviously not an earnest assertion of fact either, it’s a joke. Sinking into the freezing Atlantic and 2/3rds of them dying is not meant as some serious comparison to serving on a Navy vessel for a long deployment, it’s humor. Nothing is being asserted in these memes, nothing even vaguely related to Trump is mentioned, and I’d love to hear your argument for how any of the text or images here are rising to the alarmist level of “manufacturing evidence”
Imagine this was a photo of a WWII bomber returning home after a long and hard deployment, you wouldn’t interpret someone saying “wow that bomber looks beat to shit” as some kind of misinformation or assertion of fact or personal attack on President Roosevelt would you?
You say after having all the context presented to you.
Dude, don’t be a contrarian just for the sake of it. You know exactly what this meme implies and what it means and how out of context it is, don’t even.
Well at least you’ve retrenched from this is “manufacturing evidence” to this “implies” something. Which in no way are the same thing. I agree with you that it vaguely implies something about our Navy assets and sailors being worked too hard during this war, which is certainly a fair point for discussion, but that wasn’t your original argument in any way. So from a motte and bailey fallacy perspective I feel good about that progress. Also a pretty bold move calling your own wall of text on the matter “all the context” but that’s rather beside the point.
The stupidest people on this platform hide behind logical fallacies they can’t properly identify or use correctly, then call what I wrote a “wall of text.” You’re like the 20th person this month to use this exact tactic, and it looks and sounds just as stupid coming from you as it did from your counterparts.
Nobody manufactured evidence. Nor did I make any implications. I explicitly called out the manufactured propaganda the meme was displaying and the misinformation it was attempting to promote.
Apparently, you have some kind of disagreement with that. So let me state it plainly and head back down to the motte:
I am proclaiming that the meme is propagandizing misinformation.
I don’t see what factual argument is being made in ANY of the three layers of this meme. Or how Trump is mentioned or involved at all. “The ship has arrived at port” with a photo of the ship. Surely your issue isn’t with that. “My God, the state of that ship” is not a factual assertion of anything, except that the ship externally looks pretty rough in that photo after that long deployment. And “A passenger on the titanic had a better experience” is is obviously not an earnest assertion of fact either, it’s a joke. Sinking into the freezing Atlantic and 2/3rds of them dying is not meant as some serious comparison to serving on a Navy vessel for a long deployment, it’s humor. Nothing is being asserted in these memes, nothing even vaguely related to Trump is mentioned, and I’d love to hear your argument for how any of the text or images here are rising to the alarmist level of “manufacturing evidence”
Imagine this was a photo of a WWII bomber returning home after a long and hard deployment, you wouldn’t interpret someone saying “wow that bomber looks beat to shit” as some kind of misinformation or assertion of fact or personal attack on President Roosevelt would you?
You say after having all the context presented to you.
Dude, don’t be a contrarian just for the sake of it. You know exactly what this meme implies and what it means and how out of context it is, don’t even.
Well at least you’ve retrenched from this is “manufacturing evidence” to this “implies” something. Which in no way are the same thing. I agree with you that it vaguely implies something about our Navy assets and sailors being worked too hard during this war, which is certainly a fair point for discussion, but that wasn’t your original argument in any way. So from a motte and bailey fallacy perspective I feel good about that progress. Also a pretty bold move calling your own wall of text on the matter “all the context” but that’s rather beside the point.
The stupidest people on this platform hide behind logical fallacies they can’t properly identify or use correctly, then call what I wrote a “wall of text.” You’re like the 20th person this month to use this exact tactic, and it looks and sounds just as stupid coming from you as it did from your counterparts.
Nobody manufactured evidence. Nor did I make any implications. I explicitly called out the manufactured propaganda the meme was displaying and the misinformation it was attempting to promote.
Apparently, you have some kind of disagreement with that. So let me state it plainly and head back down to the motte:
I am proclaiming that the meme is propagandizing misinformation.
Proceed.