If you don’t own a car, or can’t drive (at the moment) for some other reason, in a lot of suburbs in the US you literally don’t have a choice.
Where I live in Germany there’s also a lot of supermarket delivery, but they’re generally picked and delivered by people working directly for the supermarket, not random gig economy dudes of the street, so since they have access to the stores inventory system they will automatically know what is available (and since the order app also has that access, you can’t even order anything the supermarket already doesn’t have in inventory at the time of ordering), and either automatically cancel, automatically substitute or send you a notification to pick an option if something is out.
If you don’t own a car, or can’t drive (at the moment) for some other reason, in a lot of suburbs in the US you literally don’t have a choice.
Counter point: these services are relatively new and the majority of people in these suburbs got along fine without exploiting that labor before. There are edge cases that this may benefit (meals on wheels type situations) but I’d argue it’s still borderline immoral to use them.
I prefer my grandma to use them over driving herself. This stuff arrived over the pandemic but its niche is permanent, not everyone using it is doing it out of laziness.
these services are relatively new and the majority of people in these suburbs got along fine without exploiting that labor before.
There are edge cases that this may benefit (meals on wheels type situations) but I’d argue it’s still borderline immoral to use them.
I prefer my grandma to use them over driving herself. This stuff arrived over the pandemic but its niche is permanent, not everyone using it is doing it out of laziness.
I didn’t say everyone was doing it out of laziness.
I said the majority got along fine before.
I said some portions of the pop’n benefit from it now.
It’s still exploitative and I believe borderline immoral. The gig economy is bad for the overall economy.
I am legitimately imagining this person pitching a fit because he got invited to a party and they want to order pizza. Or rather, I imagine them pretending like that’s what they did later in the shower, because nobody actually acts like this in real life.
I am legitimately imagining this person pitching a fit because he got invited to a party and they want to order pizza.
Otherwise you’d have to imagine me as a normal person arguing that the service you use is a net negative on society, I guess. Just chilling here petting my dog and posting PRs at work while bsing on the Internet.
“Oh boy I can strawman someone’s argument online? Guess I better do it at every chance!”
See how silly that sounds?
To the actual point, you’d be much better off spending your time on the root issues instead of attacking a very small minority of the problem. That’s my only point, food/grocery delivery is so low on the list of capitalism exploitation shit.
The actual point is that I can comment on any issue I want, and dismissing that comment because it doesn’t solve what you believe to be an overarching problem is silly.
You don’t need to start from the top or the bottom. You can address any issue you want regardless of its perceived priority.
It was the same response, just had a network issue.
Don’t care to continue this discussion honestly, keep demonizing gig workers and the people who use them all you want, just saying it’s not actually going to help.
Lol, no they fucking didn’t. They’d beg people to go shopping for them, meaning they were literally reliant on other people’s schedules to get food. Or like my grandmother, she’d call a cab both ways, wobble herself down the stairs to wait for it, spend two hours slowly working her half blind ass through each aisle to find the shit she needed, and then still be unable to carry more than ten pounds of groceries at a time. This is a miserable ordeal.
Compare to my mother in law, in a similar position, her kids and grandchildren can just ship her food from anywhere with an app. She loves it. The drivers get tipped. We call her and she talks about what she got delivered. But sure, food delivery is “immoral” when you are sufficiently privileged I guess.
If you don’t own a car, or can’t drive (at the moment) for some other reason, in a lot of suburbs in the US you literally don’t have a choice.
Where I live in Germany there’s also a lot of supermarket delivery, but they’re generally picked and delivered by people working directly for the supermarket, not random gig economy dudes of the street, so since they have access to the stores inventory system they will automatically know what is available (and since the order app also has that access, you can’t even order anything the supermarket already doesn’t have in inventory at the time of ordering), and either automatically cancel, automatically substitute or send you a notification to pick an option if something is out.
Yeah, the idea that this is a uniquely American thing is, itself, the kind of thing I’d expect some pick-me American teenager to say.
Counter point: these services are relatively new and the majority of people in these suburbs got along fine without exploiting that labor before. There are edge cases that this may benefit (meals on wheels type situations) but I’d argue it’s still borderline immoral to use them.
I prefer my grandma to use them over driving herself. This stuff arrived over the pandemic but its niche is permanent, not everyone using it is doing it out of laziness.
I didn’t say everyone was doing it out of laziness.
I said the majority got along fine before.
I said some portions of the pop’n benefit from it now.
It’s still exploitative and I believe borderline immoral. The gig economy is bad for the overall economy.
Most grocery places now do their delivery/curbside themselves so you don’t have to patronize a third party app.
Good.
The entire system is exploitative, attacking grocery delivery isn’t going to fix capitalism buddy.
I am legitimately imagining this person pitching a fit because he got invited to a party and they want to order pizza. Or rather, I imagine them pretending like that’s what they did later in the shower, because nobody actually acts like this in real life.
Otherwise you’d have to imagine me as a normal person arguing that the service you use is a net negative on society, I guess. Just chilling here petting my dog and posting PRs at work while bsing on the Internet.
“Oh man, it won’t fix capitalism? Guess I better keep my mouth shut then unless I can fix the entire thing.”
See how silly that sounds?
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“Oh boy I can strawman someone’s argument online? Guess I better do it at every chance!”
See how silly that sounds?
To the actual point, you’d be much better off spending your time on the root issues instead of attacking a very small minority of the problem. That’s my only point, food/grocery delivery is so low on the list of capitalism exploitation shit.
Took you 3 attempts to get that response out, eh?
The actual point is that I can comment on any issue I want, and dismissing that comment because it doesn’t solve what you believe to be an overarching problem is silly.
You don’t need to start from the top or the bottom. You can address any issue you want regardless of its perceived priority.
Trying to silence someone from doing so is silly.
It was the same response, just had a network issue.
Don’t care to continue this discussion honestly, keep demonizing gig workers and the people who use them all you want, just saying it’s not actually going to help.
Lol, no they fucking didn’t. They’d beg people to go shopping for them, meaning they were literally reliant on other people’s schedules to get food. Or like my grandmother, she’d call a cab both ways, wobble herself down the stairs to wait for it, spend two hours slowly working her half blind ass through each aisle to find the shit she needed, and then still be unable to carry more than ten pounds of groceries at a time. This is a miserable ordeal.
Compare to my mother in law, in a similar position, her kids and grandchildren can just ship her food from anywhere with an app. She loves it. The drivers get tipped. We call her and she talks about what she got delivered. But sure, food delivery is “immoral” when you are sufficiently privileged I guess.
You sittin’ there arguing that the majority of people were begging others to go shopping for them?