• Rhaedas@fedia.io
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    1 day ago

    On the one hand, I agree that there’s more than what we can see going on, both who is in control and the strategy. But on the other hand, part of conspiracy mindset is the comfort in thinking there’s some mastermind at work that only you know about… because the alternative would be that this is it, what you see is what’s actually making decisions, and that is far more frightening than some secret council or lizard people pulling strings. There is no one driving the bus.

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      11 hours ago

      There is no one driving the bus.

      It seems clear that many people are trying to drive that bus, and they’re all pushing the arms of the guy sitting in the driver’s seat.

      But that guy is suffering from demensia and sometimes does a random swerve of his own.

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      Normally I would 100% agree with this, but we know the project 2025 document exists and it was developed by the heritage foundation…who has dubious ties to several billionaires…so I don’t believe for a second this is all just monumental stupidity, with an emphasis on “all” as I am sure some of the events that have unfolded recently happened organically due to the level of intelligence in the room lol

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        If anything it’s those few wealthy that are pulling strings. But even they can’t agree on things and have their own agenda, so I think even the hidden control is a chaotic mess and not as neat as a conspiracy thinker would like. Going back to the bus analogy, there’s not the absence of a driver, but multiple people fighting over the steering. Which is worse?

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          so I think even the hidden control is a chaotic mess and not as neat as a conspiracy thinker would like.

          That’s my thoughts as well.

          A bunch of different people each holding a different puppet string, making moves based on their own agendas and not coordinating their string pulls with the rest.

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          Yep that makes sense, nobody agreeing on a definitive path with multiple people tugging at the wheel. That tracks. All I know is its going to get messier before it gets better, if that is even possible now.

          • 🇨🇦GreenBeard🇨🇦@lemmy.ca
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            My take is that it is very much a conspiracy, and not even a particularly well disguised one. It’s actually pretty obvious which is why it’s stunning that so many people simply refuse to see it. Also, it’s a conspiracy of not very smart, but very influential people. The most terrifying option of all is that this isn’t humble stupidity, this is highly coordinated and advanced stupidity by morons who think they’re geniuses because they’ve talked the desperate and the delusional into buying their nonsense.

            In absolute terms, being the least dysfunctional moron in the room does not make you smart.

            “The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.” ~William Shakespere, paraphrasing Plato

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              it’s stunning that so many people simply refuse to see it.

              I think the majority see it, but half pretend they don’t, for the illusion of safety.

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              Yah that makes sense and tracks closely with what I have been observing as well. Appreciate the articulated response. I’d add given the quote you added at the end, that history will most likely be repeating itself whenever this whole debacle collapses in on itself.

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      Yeah, see I think it’s taken me a long time to make peace with it, but this admin has been so bizarre I actually think no one’s got the wheel.