• Peacepath@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    The exact same as been said about facebook, video games, TV, and cinema even before.

    I bet the same will still be said of the next thing that get popular among young people…

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    Its one of the filters, of the great filter.

    These people have NPC-ified themselves, and they basically have the AI behavior routines of zombies, just ones that can do a slightly more convincing emulation of socializing.

    Brain dead by way of vanity and consumerism.

    Sorry, turns out that a wide swath of humanity is too dumb to recognize what this stuff does to them, that our technological abilities have evolved way, way faster than our biology has.

    We never should have made computers this user friendly. Because, when, you do that, it lowers the barrier of entry/usage down so low that you end up programming the less aware users, moreso than the software.

    Not to mention that TikTok, Twitter/X and Facebook are all owned and controlled by delusional narcissist freak anti-social Epstein class people, who openly view normies as dumb cattle who exist to be distracted and surveilled and groomed and conned.

    So give them a simulation of socializing, a simulation of culture, a simulation of even rebelling against that culture… so long as they control the black box algorithm, the algo that knows them better than they know themself, the algo that harvests them via either subscription payments or data extraction.

    They figured out how to induce drug addiction behavior, without selling an actual drug… they hacked the human brain, via a much more advanced version of basically networked, interactive television.

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    7 hours ago

    Fella this is Facebook and twitter times. We are deeper in the Facebook an twitter duopoly than before, and that is what allowed things to get this bad

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    9 hours ago

    I was hanging out with this late gen Y crowd, and literally everyone had their phones out and were messaging other people in the friend group who weren’t currently hanging out. Instead of hanging out, they were messaging others who weren’t and might later. Then when those people stop by, they’d start messaging other people they’re not with. Now and then they’d look up to say “so and so is doing so and so” to someone, like give an update from the person that wasn’t there.

    Kinda agree. We fucked society up with phones. I both admire that we can hold such a powerful computer and carry it in our pocket, and hate that it’s normalized.

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      My friend group was really late to adopt smart phones. I was always the nerdy one, so i had a cracked iphone as soon as it was available. Years later, tgey still rocked the dumb phone. None of us cared about social media at all. The smartphones slowely dripped in, because that was the only thing that you can get.

      Boy that broke our whole group. A thing we would always do is hang out, listen to music, talked about movies, whatever. I did this for a long time my the last guy without a smartphone. The day he got an iphone, that was gone. We did it one or two more times and then we kinda drifted apart. Instead of talking about movies and music it was: let me look this up… I saw this thing on (whatever) This was before tiktok, i can’t imagine what younger people go through.

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        8 hours ago

        Data: Captain Picard, we are being hailed!

        Picard: don’t put video on

        Data: but they want to video chat sir

        Picard: text them “what’s up”

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        I dont think that in the 60s-90s anyone would have necessarily anticipated the existence of smartphones as they are now. Rather than it being a “deliberate” choice not to have them in the show. Its just not a futuristic idea of communication that existed at the time. Theres not smartphones in The Jetsons either. Earlier ideas of what the future would be like were a lot more utopian than the dystopian hellscape induced by smartphones and social media. Their various ideas of the future were a modification of the way people actually lived then, which was simultaneously less connected but also more interpersonally social. They dreamed of a more connected future, but not one where that level of connection would rip apart established social fabrics

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            There’s not a whole lot of entertainment value in having a bunch of people sitting in silence texting other people off screen with the occasional loud video being played to nobody. Even if they are in space.

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              Ditto for AI. Oh, sure, they played with AI, but always in an embodied holodeck character or an android, never as a disembodied computer program. Imagine a show where every major decision point on the bridge was “do what the computer says.”

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            Well yeah, but they are based on the universe that was invented earlier. It would be pretty jarring for them to have made a change like that

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      While I agree it got worse, I remember some people doing exactly that when I was in high school in the 2000s - sms were enough to constantly distract them form what was going on in front of them

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    9 hours ago

    >here’s a new mental illness term

    4CHDESS = 4chan derangement and estrangement syndromes (there’s a whole group of them)

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    8 hours ago

    Outrage against a legitimate problem with nostalgia for times the problem still existed in other forms and some ableism sprinkled in for spice. Delicious.

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      It’s not ableist to point out the epidemic of ‘TherapySpeak’ on TikTok.

      They didn’t actually make any ableist insults.

      It is a legitimate problem that TikTok is a prime vector for spreading and normalizing medical misinformation regarding mental health and psychology terms and concepts.