Which is why it’s a shame to see you fight each other as if that isn’t the case.
I would wholeheartedly recommend reading How To Win Friends And Influence People (or at least this summary). Especially if you’re trying to convince people to vote in the midterms.
I would love to see a 3rd party candidate win one year, and face house and senate stacked with Ds and Rs, shooting down everything they try to achieve. Then have Rs take the presidency, house and senate in the next cycle and start another major war. Now that’s progressive thinking!
Edit: to actually reply to what you said, the absolute dog shit strategy from the dems gave us Trump. Biden dropping out at the last moment, making Kamala the candidate. Ouch.
Bipartisan support for genocide reinstated Trump, something Biden and Harris both supported. Not to mention all the campaign lies, “I have Bernie’s policies but BETTER…” from twenty identical ratfuckers.
You identified the problem and you don’t even realize it.
Hey, your image even got it right! If Ds were in power, the crank would not turn to the right. Believe it or not, this is the best you can get for the US.
We deserve better, and it can be achieved
Never once has anyone shown me a credible path there. Just please vote D while waiting for that miracle to happen, we need Trump out.
Vote with your heart in the primaries, vote with your head in the general. Of course you should vote Democrat. I’m just saying there are also things you can do to improve the quality of Democrats you get.
Tall order for Americans.
It was a successful prosecutor versus a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, insurrectionist, and probable pedophile with one failed presidency already under his belt and a significant number of Americans still managed to not vote or turn their vote to ash with a 3rd party candidate, including a shit ton of users on this very platform who still think they were very smart for doing so.
Ugh don’t remind me it makes me mad every time
Ah, ok you’re one of the reasonable ones. For some reason I’ve been butting heads against staunch anti-Ds today and it grinds you. They refuse to see that their position is playing in the hands of the R cronies.
But yes, what Bernie almost did was amazing. Very much hoping to see something similar happen again.
Yeah, I don’t know why that position is so common here. And God it would be so awesome to see someone like Bernie actually succeed. I think it’s possible.
They must be either paid shills, or fanatics who direct their anger to the Democratic party. Their solution is some vague revolution, whereas taking over the Democratic party would be an order of magnitude easier task.
Nazi Germany had lots of “reasonable ones” too. Good Germans. Good Americans.
They made a poem about it.
…what? That’s a non-sequitur with concerning implications.
I will not vote for a pro genocide candidate. You want to know what’s too far? That’s it. I won’t put myself OR YOU over kids in Gaza. No apologies.
We deserve neither prosperity or security.
I never asked what was too far or talked to you so ok go ahead
That is what you want? Holy cow.
For things to stop actively getting worse? Yes. That is what I want.
Worse for who, you or kids in Gaza?
I give zero fucks about one of these.
To be clear, I will always prioritize my own country and the people in it.
To be even more clear, the rapist we got is WAY worse for Gaza than ANY Dem candidate would have been.
So every dipshit that chose to stay home or vote for a candidate that couldn’t win literally condoned the WORST possible scenario for the kids in Gaza.
I will never see the world through your chauvinistic lens. Human rights are universal.
Your supposed rights and liberties are just selective privileges enjoyed on the backs of the oppressed.
I can’t believe your making quantitative allowances for genocide. Wow.
You deserve everything you permit onto others. And I really do hope you get it.
I don’t get this argument. How are the kids in Gaza doing any better since Harris lost?
Both.
Edit: though I gotta say, my life has not gotten significantly worse since the reelection of trump, so. Thank you for your concern.
if only we could get rid of the right wing party that postures as left wing party and prevents all movement to the left
Maybe if you keep crying that will magically happen.
i’m not the one making n+1 cope threads crying about how the communists and anarchists online are the reason democrats keep eating shit to a bunch of fucking clowns.
Want is different from “can have”. One tick to the right in that picture here means 0.5 degrees of extra warming. 3 ticks means another catastrophic war. So yeah, let’s just stop it from moving rather than attack the only thing that can stop it.
There was war happening under Biden. There was genocide happening under Biden.
This might shock you, but Biden wasn’t president of Earth. And he actually brought our troops home from the Middle East until The Rapist sent them back. He also openly expressed disapproval of Israel’s actions, floated arms shipment cancellations, and tried to broker a peace deal.
Did he do enough? Nah. But you seem to have some imaginary concept of Joe Biden.
I’m shocked at how stupid you are. Yes.
Biden brought troops home from Afghanistan, which is NOT in the Middle East, and only after he was an ardent supporter of the occupation for TWO FUCKING DECADES.
If he’s not President of Earth" then why did Biden bend over backward to arm a genocide on the other side of the world? If he was soOOOOooo sad about it then why did he do it? Why did he consistently repeat debunked blood libel lies about “beheaded babies in ovens” from his campaign podium? He said he saw it with his “own eyes”!!! He’s a pathological liar, and has been for his entire career. It only got worse with senility.
AM I really imagining this or do you have your head up your ass?
Here’s a picture if that helps you understand what the Presidents of Earth have been up to.
Disingenuous, they clearly state they believe it is the best we can hope to achieve, not that it is what they want. I don’t think they’re correct, but this is a bad faith reading. Avoid this in the future for stronger left cohesion.
No, that is not how it works. If I want a filthy street to be clean, then not adding more trash is not a solution. You have to actually remove existing trash. Voting the same party again that has failed people now and in the past is simply not the solution. If you vote shit instead of garbage because shit is at least compositing… the street stays filthy.
It is in a federal election since no 3rd party can win a federal election. Literally.
If you want to vote for something other than Dems or Repubs in local elections, even though no 3rd party is putting forth any effort to be viable in that arena either, then go for it and I’ll be cheering for you. If you want to pull that shit in a federal election. Well, time to return to school and receive a better education.
The most popular 3rd party candidate in the 2024 election received 0.5% of the total votes cast.
What I’m saying is, it was clear the other commenter did not want a filthy street. Their methods may have been ineffective at achieving that, but claiming they wanted it is incorrect.
This is why no one thinks you’re convincing. Because if you fundamentally believe this is the best we got, you have nothing offer, and the fact that you can’t see that means our only options are to fight you and ignore you, and when you insist on spreading your position on social media, you must be fought
Yeah, surely keep on fighting. But vote D in the mean time. Rs need to be kept away from power, and not voting D is enabling Rs.
Voting in Ds also enables Rs, and we have no shortage of examples.
I mean, are you under some sort of uninformed impression that any 3rd party can win a federal election?
The most popular 3rd party candidate in 2024 received 0.5% of the total votes cast. To be clear, that’s a really, really, really small percentage and proves that in no way can a 3rd party win a federal election.
So your country and, therefore, your life, will be controlled by Democrats or Republicans. Now, take a real good look around you and figure out which one you prefer.
They are literally collaborators. I wish people would stop assuming that Democrats are somehow different from the system that they created. Trump is using policies created by Obama/Biden. Biden/Harris had the Epstein Files in full and chose to do nothing to stop Trump. Clinton deregulated the financial system which directly caused the criminal behavior that crash the global economy and Obama gave all the money to the banks and no one experienced any consequences. Obama presided over the largest expansion of fossil fuels in history. Corporate profits are highest under Democrat regimes.
Stop telling me I’m wrong for rejecting the Good Cop’s mask. Stop telling me I’m immoral for not voting for the “obvious good guy” in the puppet show. The puppet show has characters that wear red and blue so that it’s easy for the audience to understand who to cheer for and who to boo for, but the puppet show is run by ONE system and the puppets are part of that system and the SYSTEM is the thing that is harming us. Not the Red Shirts, not the Blue Shirts, not the Good Cop, not the Bad Cop.
Why are you demanding that I stand here and pledge my allegiance to the fascists with the masks on?
Ok, here we go again…
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2026/09/21/congress/jared-golden-mike-lawler-endorsement-01086087
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/6063798-golden-perez-gop-bills-advance/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64897233
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2026/09/01/congress/dems-defect-on-socialism-01061046
https://foxx.house.gov/news/email/show.aspx?ID=ZJBPWOTQTJALJRZ4HC7K6AT5NA
Yes indeed. Here we go again. Trying to explain to someone with zero imagination and the moral framework of a 12 year old reading YA novels that in fact the Democrats have been collaborating with the Republicans for many many decades in the maintenance of the empire, the racialized mass incarceration, the slave labor, the killing of pregnant mothers around the world via sanctions, the destruction of the planet, the protection of the worst criminals in the history of the world, and continuous genocide and mass murder.
Yes, so focus on voting out those Democrats and replace them with good ones. I was told earlier today by someone that the alternative is organizing some vague revolution. I can tell you the easier path is to take over the Democratic party.
Yeah. That’s the problem. Again and again and again. This is either the definition of insanity or you think we’re all stupid.