The conviction rate is relevant when it is being argued that being convicted of rape destroys the rapists life and only the Epstein class gets away with rape.
It is not just the Epstein class that gets away with rape.
A 20-year review of reported rape and sexual assault cases found that 89% were “founded” by law enforcement, meaning police determined that the crime more than likely occurred.
But only 8% of reported rape and sexual assault cases ended in conviction.
In other words, police believed most reports, but very few cases led to the perpetrator’s conviction. Survivors can be believed and still not get the legal outcome they seek.
Justice requires more than recognizing harm. It requires systems prepared to move cases forward and support survivors through what comes next.
Because the discussion is how the conviction affects those 8% of people. Not that only 8% of people are convicted.
It also has no bearing on the topic of whether the ultra wealthy get away with it more than the working class, unless you provide the stats for the ultra wealthy.
The conversation you’re trying to have is about low conviction rates, which is a valid topic, but a different conversation.
We were initially talking about how the conviction rate affects those 8%. And then we moved on to whether it is just Epstein class rapists that escape punishment for rape.
When conviction rates are around 8% of rape cases, that is proof that it is not just the Epstein class that avoids prosecution and conviction.
And here is my original comment in this particular conversation where I bring up the 8% stat and CLEARLY FUCKING STATE THAT IT ISN’T JUST RICH PEOPLE THAT ESCAPE CONVICTION:
A 20-year review of reported rape and sexual assault cases found that 89% were “founded” by law enforcement, meaning police determined that the crime more than likely occurred.
But only 8% of reported rape and sexual assault cases ended in conviction.
In other words, police believed most reports, but very few cases led to the perpetrator’s conviction. Survivors can be believed and still not get the legal outcome they seek.
The conviction rate is relevant when it is being argued that being convicted of rape destroys the rapists life and only the Epstein class gets away with rape.
Here’s another one of my comments that you are outright ignoring.
The conviction rate is relevant when it is being argued that being convicted of rape destroys the rapists life and only the Epstein class gets away with rape.
It is not just the Epstein class that gets away with rape.
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No, it’s not at all relevant to the discussion. It’s a completely different discussion.
How so?
Because the discussion is how the conviction affects those 8% of people. Not that only 8% of people are convicted.
It also has no bearing on the topic of whether the ultra wealthy get away with it more than the working class, unless you provide the stats for the ultra wealthy.
The conversation you’re trying to have is about low conviction rates, which is a valid topic, but a different conversation.
We were initially talking about how the conviction rate affects those 8%. And then we moved on to whether it is just Epstein class rapists that escape punishment for rape.
When conviction rates are around 8% of rape cases, that is proof that it is not just the Epstein class that avoids prosecution and conviction.
No, you just started talking about low conviction rates as if it’s relevant to the main topic of how the conviction affect the convicted.
Low conviction rates have absolutely no bearing on whether a convicted rapist is employable.
And here is my original comment in this particular conversation where I bring up the 8% stat and CLEARLY FUCKING STATE THAT IT ISN’T JUST RICH PEOPLE THAT ESCAPE CONVICTION:
https://sh.itjust.works/post/69365361/28308983
Here’s another one of my comments that you are outright ignoring.
Right, because the data shows that the working class is convicted. It may not be the numbers you want, but it happens.
Without also providing the number of ultra wealthy convicted, the figure is meaningless to this conversation.
Way to take accountability yourself for editing my comments to better serve your argument.
When less than 10% of rape cases are convicted, there’s very little accountability for any rapists at all.
It is dismissive and spreading misinformation to push that only the wealthy dodge rape convictions.
You edited this out when you quoted my comments.
That’s the whole point of me bringing that particular stat.
You’re being disingenuous editing my comments like that.