“I’ve made clear from the very beginning that our top priority is going to be to drive down the high cost of living,” the House minority leader said on Fox News Sunday.

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    Bad take. Impeaching Trump reduces the amount of time he’s in charge/has the authority to direct people. Committing more and more illegal acts…

    They MIGHT be able to get some Rs on board to do it too.

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      Impeaching him doesn’t do shit unless he’s convicted in The Senate, and they don’t have the votes for that.

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        Yes, I know. Next time I’ll be more specific.

        They don’t have the votes to pass ANYTHING. So it’s either try to impeach/convict, so that they can maybe pass things (and remove him from further shenanigans).

        I think removing him from committing further actions is paramount personally.

        Other path, hope we can get a supermajority for literally everything else.

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      Impeaching trump does nothing to trump, only conviction has a direct impact. It may be possible to secure that conviction, but we don’t yet know what the GOP attitude will be going forward from here. Rep. Kiros said it quite well:

      Rep.-elect Melat Kiros, a Colorado Democrat, told CBS News in a recent interview. “I’m not convinced that there is a path forward for impeaching the president that would lead to removal. And if we don’t have a hope for removal, I think our time would be better spent focusing on legislation that we could actually pass that could support working families in this moment.”

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        You misunderstand me. I mean to fully impeach.

        What do you think they’ll be able to pass without a veto? Can’t veto impeachment.

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          I understood you.

          If history is anything to go by, securing enough bipartisan support to override a veto will be far easier than getting 11-13 opposition senators to side with sanity in an impeachment trial. Overriding a veto will be no casual task, but while both seem unlikely, we won’t know how unlikely either option truly is until the GOP response flocculates…

          And that’s the unfortunate situation, we just don’t know yet. And as much as I dislike it, I can’t quite bring myself to believe a pessimistic outlook on securing enough support to convict on impeachment is unwarranted.

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            So attempt to get MULTIPLE supermajorities to enact laws… Or get 1 supermajority to impeach/convict.

            We don’t know, what we don’t know. Either of us could be correct, but I don’t think anyone really knows what’s going to happen.

            Edit: it seemed like you didn’t understand me, because you specified conviction, not trying to be combative, just wanted to be on the same page

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              Yep, pretty much! Right now I agree with Kiros that focusing on impeachment as an immediate concern is likely to be a poor use of resources, as bipartisan support that hits or surpasses a supermajority for legislation is relatively common compared to the ouster of a president. But I am just guessing that that’s the most reasonable approach, as you say anyone could be right at the moment.