• LeftReddit2@lemmy.world
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    I am man enough to admit I used to like Musk. Deadass. I remember long long ago in the past he supposed universal healthcare and universal basic income, anyone else?

    I turned on him a bit after the diver shit when he wrongly called that guy a pedophile, but then 2020 did it in for me because HE DIDN’T SUPPORT ANDREW YANG! Andrew Yang was basically right about everything, let’s be so for real.

    Why did Musk not push his weight behind him. Imagine if he tossed the money he put into supporting cuckservatives into supporting Yang! We might actually be getting $1000 a month now WHICH WE SHOULD AS YANG WAS RIGHT!

    Fuck this stupid, South African fraud. Deport him back to Cape Town.

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      Andrew Yang was basically right about everything, let’s be so for real.

      Yang sucks it. You should perhaps think about who you admire more deeply.

      The mindset behind a single guy / thing / policy fixing everything is part of the problem. The world is more complicated than that.

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      I remember long long ago in the past he supposed universal healthcare and universal basic income, anyone else?

      He used to have a PR team to help him with this shit.

      But then at one point he fired them (probably because they’d told him one too many times that he shouldn’t do Nazi salutes) and started making his own shitposts on Twitter (it was still Twitter back then), and that’s when the world began to see the real Elon.

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        I wonder if it’s because all this happened because he really couldn’t contain himself anymore. Like really letting his freak-flag fly?

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          He’s an addict. If it’s not ketamine, it’s money or power, the same mechanisms work in all addictions, it takes a good deal of self delusion to go as far down the paths addicts go to excuse their behaviour. The more it feeds the delusion, the harder it is to crawl out of the hole it digs you

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      The diver pedophile situation was the big turning point for me. I wouldn’t say I was a fan boy or anything, but I certainly didn’t think he was the scum of the Earth. Then like a light switch, he because a shittier, more evil Montgomery Burns.

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      First time I heard of him was a PBS video. Where they walked around his newly starter factory where electric cars were being developed. He was semi bald then. He was saying how he just wanted to make green cars. Needed investors.

      Wanted to make fast and cheaper electric cars so everyone could stop using gas.

      Found myself hoping he could make that happen. Seemed like a decent guy trying to do good.

      What a lying sack of garbage.

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        First time I heard of him was when sent a Tweet that he was going to build a grid scale battery in South Australia. That project actually happened and kickstarted many more grid scale batteries to be built. I thought all the criticism of him was coming from the fossil fuel industry but yeah turned he was actually a dick.

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        It’s entirely possible that he was a decent person at that time. There’s a psychological term that escapes me, but the idea is the nearly every one of us will change given money and power, feel that rules no longer apply to us, feel that we’re smarter than the hoi polloi.

        Combine that with drugs and whatever delusions he already had, along with a sketchy family… 🤷🏼‍♂️

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          It’s this idea of power corrupts.

          It’s part of the fundamental attribution error. A cognitive bias.

          The belief that if I succeed, Or have “success” (however you define that), it’s because I deserve it. I worked hard. I’m better than others who haven’t achieved what I have. Other people who haven’t achieved what I have are just lazy and stupid.

          But if I fail, it’s someone else’s fault.

          If others succeed it’s because they got lucky. If others fail it’s due to a personal trait. (Lazy, stupid, etc).

          The farther you get from average, the easier it is to have this bias in the extreme.

          Imagine you have no morals or ethics. And so you have no issue exploiting or using tragedies to profit. So you get rich from those actions.

          You look around and others who didn’t do that and think " they are just stupid. I’m obviously smarter than them because I saw an exploit and took it".

          When in reality , other people know how to exploit, we just choose not to because of empathy. Or , in some cases, lack of opportunity to do so. You often need money to make money.

          But yeah I think so many of these ultra wealthy people really do believe they are smarter than everyone else because they look for and take advantage of exploits. That’s their whole business model.

          This doesn’t make them smarter. Infact from my perspective it makes them appear to have lower intelligence.

          Sure I could have a lot more money if I had no issues walking into my neighbors’ house, murdering them and stealing all their money And possessions.

          I could do this a few places every night and be pretty wealthy at the end of the week.

          That’s not being “smart” or creative or anything requiring intelligence. That’s actually the simplest way to make money. Just take it from someone else.

          Real ingenuity is building sustainable business practices.
          None of them are capable of that. Obviously.

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          He was born into generational wealth. His parents owned emerald mines. He was never a good person, and almost all his achievements were bought.

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        I didn’t see the video you are on about but I did read about him, electric cars, and investors etc etc. And I thought “I’d have one of those” then waited and waited, but as I waited he proved he was a lying piece of shit then nazi so I now only think about him when I think about woodchippers…

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          I was pretty sure it was on PBS. I saw it on the TV. Not YouTube. But this was a pretty long time ago.

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        I was so excited for the Tesla Roadster in like 2007? It was cool as hell, legitimately groundbreaking. I got to sit in one in Germany. A future car.

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      Fuck deportation. He deserves nothing less than full asset seizure and life in prison. Stop settling for a world that allows megalomaniacs to subvert democracy with lesser consequences than common thieves. These are the highest of crimes.

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        We could always mutilate him on the way out. Wouldn’t be too hard to fuck him up visually enough that nobody could easily identify him, hell just chuck him out of a plain with an Amazon branded parachute and see if he lands.

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      Fellow threat-to-humanity Sam Altman once said of him, “Elon desperately wants the world to be saved. But only if he can be the one to save it”.

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      I never did like him. I couldn’t pinpoint why until he called that diver a pedo, but it started to be a little more clear around then.