cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/54992042
Nov. 5, 2026
The poll says 66 percent of Jewish voters in the US believe that Aipac’s campaign spending against candidates who criticise Israel actually increases antisemitism in the country.
In addition, 60 percent believe that Jewish organisations that label harsh criticism of Israel as antisemitic are exploiting concerns about antisemitism to defend unpopular Israeli government policies.
Notably, 80 percent of Jewish voters believe that Israel’s actions in the occupied West Bank and Gaza are increasing antisemitism in the US.
Well, Israel isn’t really projecting an image of Jews being decent people…
Yeah, no shit. The “Jews control the world” thing is pure antisemitism, but it’s honestly sounding more and more reasonable for people to believe it when a Jewish State is behind things like anti-BDS laws, and the deplatforming of Macklemore.
And for those of us who know that Israel ≠ Jews, there are AIPAC members insisting the opposite.
It’s honestly hard work resisting antisemitic ideas when there are Jewish organizations trying to prove old harmful stereotypes right for some reason.
It fucking sucks.
Israel isn’t even the one driving. It’s Western capitalists and their need for an imperialist stronghold in the Middle East. Israel is a puppet state enacting the will of (mostly US) imperialists.
It’s both
Israel has been a majority rightwing voting country for over 30 years now. Most polls show them as 60 - 70% rightwing.
Correct
I actually thought AIPAC was some antisemitic conspiracy theory when someone first explained it to me.
It is an antisemitic conspiracy. The Zionists’ insistence that Israel is for and by all Jews is an attempt to implicate all Jews in the genocide to avoid criticism.
Antisemitism is fascist
…that’s because they do, which in turn is because it is an enormously beneficial lever for them
Talk about it talk about it talk about it talk about it
Good to hear. This is the kind of news that actually fights antisemitism.
Antisemitism is the lifeblood of Israel, it’s absolutely necessary to justify their continued existence as an unaccountable genocidal apartheid state, freely ratfucking your media and political institutions and paid for by your tax dollars.
My very Jewish friend in high school, a vehement antizionist, said that truly beating antisemitism doesn’t mean one place Jews are safe, but having Jews be safe everywhere.
Honestly the deeply contested Middle Eastern Holylands, seems like a really dumb place to go for a sense of safety.
Let me see, has humanity ever faught over religion before? Gee I wonder.
What a kumbaya moment. Did it include American Universities?
Hard to disagree with that. Furthermore, it’d be lovely if that was equally true for everybody else too.
Less likely than spontaneous pink unicorns happening, but definitely lovely.
And I’m not even sure they are all that safe in Israel. Or their actions don’t seem to indicate that they feel safe.
In any case, I am quite sure that this notion of a relationship that no one could ever question in this country (until fairly recently) stoked a metric shit-ton of antisemitism here.
People have a really hard time with the nuance of “I hate that I’m funding a country like Israel no matter what their actions are and no matter how I vote. Also, I’ll be labeled an ‘antisemite’ and lambasted for this criticism.” Some people in that camp may not really be able to tell the difference between what the country of Israel is doing vs. what “the Jews are up to”. And so some fall into outright antisemitism.
I do have to say a bunch of people lording it over others that no one could say shit without being drummed out of polite society does build up a lot of resentment. And people are right to be deeply resentful. It just needs to be aimed at those that are to blame, though. I mean, we don’t even have universal healthcare here, but Israel does? Why the fuck are we sending so much money to them?
And I’m not even sure they are all that safe in Israel. Or their actions don’t seem to indicate that they feel safe.
Their actions have directly caused them feeling less safe.
When you forcibly take away territory from a neighboring people so you can give it to “settlers” from your country, you generate resentment and anger.
When you label an entire population as terrorists and kill a large portion of their people you create the next generation of angry orphans who will seek revenge against you.
Well, they are not wrong…
Sounds like a bunch of antisemitic Jewish people! /s
Turns out the diaspora can see the Nazism far better than the nazis themselves, no matter how hard the nazis try to equate their existence.
Be aware also that AIPAC changed their name to United Democracy Project (UDP).
They have many super pacs they use to funnel money to dems without being noticed immediately.
This is why , as a good rule of thumb, any politician getting a lot from PACS means they likely are either 1. Bought by companies. 2. Bought by Israel. Or 3. Both.
Vote for Dems who get most of their donations from small individual donations.
Large individual donations could just be corporations or aipac trying to hide who gave the money.
Here are some of aipacs “secret” PACS.
Source: https://www.trackaipac.com/about/aipac
There are probably many not yet found out. Especially smaller ones or newer ones.
Many do not say “Israel” nor “Jewish” in the name and just sound like progressive groups. Many imply they are for minorities and women politicians.
By Democracy they mean like how the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea are a democracy right?
No like how the USA and Israel are democracies. With massive lobbying and foreign interference.
Same as the National Socialist German Workers’ Party
ISRAEL IS ON STOLEN PALESTINIAN LAND
Yeah, it’s rather obvious.
It hasn’t been obvious to previous generations of US Jews, so this is a big deal, and gives the Palestinian solidarity movement a big opportunity.
Cool do they think Israel should not exist?
Probably not, but this is huge progress.
Progress is when they believe in a working solution. Such as disbanding the apartheid. Not when they feel something is slightly problematic for their own perception.
The criticism is more that Israel being explicitly the “Jewish state” makes their political atrocities linked to people who just share the religion. The possibility of this happening was actually a point of criticism by some jewish people before the creation of Israel: It turns a religious and cultural identity into a political one, which has mutated zionism into an ethnonationalist ideology.
Well no, the criticism is whether it looks bad on Jews. Not about committing atrocities on others.
The question they should ask is whether Israel should exist or not.
I never know what people mean by “Isreal should not exist.” its a comment very open to interpretation. Do you mean the government should not exist? Its people should disappear?
I think Israel could exist if it wasn’t a imperialist religious ethnostate, the problem is the government and who it leaves out. If Israel included all Palestine and all citizens as equal partners in its government it could most certainly exist. Its never going to happen in our lifetime, but a one state solution is the only solution that doesn’t involve genocide as a prerequisite of success, IMO.
The government should not exist, of course.
Decolonialization is not genocide this is a ridiculous notion. Palestinians own all the land there and all the properties on it. The thieves will have to return the property and leave.
However, because Palestinians are very nice people, they might be willing to accept colonists staying on the land as long as they disband their apartheid state.
I’m curious how far you think that extends? At least some percentage of the Israeli Jews, Israeli Palestinians, and Israeli Christians currently benefitting from colonization trace their ancestry to Isreal prior to the creation of the state, are they to be “decolonized” from the only land their family has ever known? What about people who are 2-3 generations in, they are to rely on the kindness of Palestinians when they take over? If Palestinians take over, are they now the new religious ethnostate?
There is no question that Israel is a amoral colonialist religious ethnostate. But if the solution involves removing people from the region you’ll end up in a very familiar scenario i would call genocide the minute it gets violent. I think whether it sounds fair or not there has to be some restorative justice for Palestinians rather than purely punitive action to Israeli citizens. If decolonization in your mind involves removing Jews from Israel entirely I think you’ve lost me. Focus on rebuilding communities and seizing land more recently taken by violence this generation, or within what is now occupied Palestinian land.
Will they say that on CNN, MSNBC, Fox, CBS?
We used to have too many channels. Now we only have one.
Over 100 years ago a president broke up a shit ton of monopolies and virtually every child in America still has a stuffed animal named after him…
A big part of why people are so pessimistic these days, is they’re ignorant that we’ve fixed these problems before and can do it again, even when we still carry the cultural remnants in our day today lives.
At this point it’s honestly not even hard, just gotta get people to vote in the 28 primaries.
And a Republican no less.
Again, that only seems weird because neoliberals sold out our party for 30 years…
They kept moving right to please corps and oligarchs, but it was slow so Republicans couldn’t leap frog them and switch. It just drove them straight to extremism.
None of that was a coincidence.
But neoliberals lost the party almost two years ago, that’s why Tuesday happened. Republican party will have to move back to center or be replaced by a new party. And the chaos that would cause would be enough to really fix our government.
Jewish Voices for Peace, and other would. The corporate news won’t let them.
