• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    China is directly fuelling genocide, both at home amongst the Uyghurs, and in Ukraine by arming Russia.

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      3 days ago

      Please, be more accurate with your statements. China is committing genocide at home (which is terrible) and supplying components, which applications include i.e. war drones for Ukraine war, in other words fuelling the war.

      On the other hand the west is supplying plain ready to use weapons, ammunition and war vehicle parts. Not only that, but also the crucial military intel necessary to hit the targets.

      Although one can argue the outcome will be the same, results show a much higher civilian casualty percentage of 83% in the Gaza war.

      There is a substantial difference in the battlefield between fuelling, arming and committing.

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        Please, be more accurate with your statements. China is committing genocide at home (which is terrible) and supplying components, which applications include i.e. war drones for Ukraine war, in other words fuelling the war.

        On the other hand the west is supplying plain ready to use weapons, ammunition and war vehicle parts. Not only that, but also the crucial military intel necessary to hit the targets.

        What the ever-loving fuck do you think drones are

        Not only that, but also the crucial military intel necessary to hit the targets.

        And you think Chinese intelligence isn’t involved in the war in Ukraine? Both espionage and cyberattacks from suspected PRC actors are on the fucking record, and it’s not like Chinese state media is going to be doing any exposes before the CPC wants to admit it.

        Although one can argue the outcome will be the same, results show a much higher civilian casualty percentage of 83% in the Gaza war.

        Yes, because Palestine’s military (or paramilitaries) is no longer in any state to resist.

        There is a substantial difference in the battlefield between fuelling, arming and committing.

        Oh goodness, it would be really terrible if China was supplying capital, arms, and personnel.

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          3 days ago

          Is it necessary to rage like an agressive drunk psyco? I do appreciate the links to the sources, but behave like a civilized being.

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            3 days ago

            Is it necessary to rage like an agressive drunk psyco? I do appreciate the links to the sources, but behave like a civilized being.

            If there’s one thing I’ve learned over two decades of arguing with people over matters like disinformation and genocide, it’s that gentle phrasing leads people to walk away with “Ah, a nice little political disagreement! Agree to disagree!”

            Spreading disinformation is not something that is minor, and it should not be treated as such. Even if done without malice - and I don’t think you’re doing it maliciously - treating it as a ‘mere’ disagreement encourages people to continue repeating it. Treating is as a serious offense - which it is - forces either defense of the disinformation or discarding spreading it.

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              Well tbh, I also hate agreing to disagree. Discussion is the civilized solution to conflicts, although it provenly takes a long time to make sides understand each other.

              Nobody knows about everything. As long as the discussion is backed with sources and non-repetitive arguments both sides benefit from it, even when not reaching a consensus.

              Often I realize heated arguments even when both sides have really similar believes. Coming back to the meme’s topic, I’m sure you don’t see our western mainstream media as fully honest and non-biased journalism. Not that chinese or russian media is any better (far from it), but I believe autocriticism is an essential requirement for a healthy democratic society our foreign ministers brag about.