He didn’t gun her down in rage, it was an accident when he was showing her the gun according to the article.
Had to clarify that for the people (like the person who tweeted this) who think it is some “MAGA hunted down and shot his daughter for being anti MAGA” bullshit.
The big question is, why would he be showing her a gun when the family repeatedly said that she did not like guns? She probably didn’t even know he was about to show her one.
When I was 22 I was terrified of guns and the sight of one in person would send me into a panic. Any time someone offered to show me a gun I refused. In no scenario would I have agreed to look at anyone’s gun ever. Based on her familys statement on her stance with guns, I imagine she would have refused too. Her father had to have mislead her in some way to get her into that room. That’s the issue. This case needs to be revisited. I think something was overlooked.
For the people blowing this up, I’ll repeat what I said in another comment:
When I first read this article, not much had come out in the details of what happened and I had assumed the discussion was much more civil than it was later revealed to be. The guy still deserves jail time regardless but it seems significantly more likely now that this was a case of malicious intent turned into claims of “an accident”. Even if he didn’t know it was loaded he still took intentional actions.
I still stand by my statement of the twitter post obviously being inflammatory and rage baiting however.
Fucking propaganda, fucks sake.
Even if you take all the political bullshit out of this you’ve still got a dumb cunt ‘accidentally’ shooting his daughter after having an argument.
And if you take the argument part out of this you’ve still got a dumb cunt accidentally shooting his daughter.
In every case the guy deserves prison. The end. Full stop.
Now if you look further in to the argument you’ll see that the daughter asked if he would be upset if tRUMP raped her, and father said something along the lines of “I’ve got two other daughters so I wouldn’t be too upset”.
The guy preferred guns and a child rapist over his own daughter, and he should go to jail.
Oh he’s 100% a dipshit that deserves jail time, he caused an avoidable death
This headline reads like “Man finds out his daughter is liberal and deliberately shoots her in home for being liberal” which is just patently wrong. The reason I said it is because I’ve already seen other articles and people on here jumping on it to be like he intentionally killed his own daughter. The people jumping on the article title without reading what happened is not the way to do this stuff.
He wasnt even charged with criminal negligence there were no charges against him and he led her into his room to point a gun at her. Even in context you can be pissed about this.
The only context needed is that he is completely free from consequence other than what he chooses for himself.
The article said other people were in the home. So multiple witnesses.
This is what I’m talking about. He is highly likely just a dipshit that can’t safely handle firearms, but lots of people are reading the title and saying “MAGA dad assassinates daughter for being liberal”
The article said other people were in the home. So multiple witnesses.
But then murder daddy took his daughter up to his room out of sight and shot her, there was nobody else in the room with them
This is what I’m talking about. He is highly likely just a dipshit that can’t safely handle firearms
Which is usually called “criminal negligence” and should still result in charges and jail time
but lots of people are reading the title and saying “MAGA dad assassinates daughter for being liberal”
Well, we really do not know and both options are equally possible… you are just taking one side with no evidence and complain about the other side for doing the same
You’re right, when I first read this article, not much had come out in the details of what happened and I had assumed the discussion was much more civil than it was later revealed to be. The guy still deserves jail time regardless but it seems significantly more likely now that this was a case of malicious intent turned into claims of “an accident”. Even if he didn’t know it was loaded he still took intentional actions.
No, the article says he was in the room with his daughter alone. He led her off by the hand right before she left to go home. Early, mind you, after a big argument the previous day where the father told her he didn’t really care if she got raped.
He led her off by the hand alone into the room with a gun she was terrified of him owning (you don’t need a permit for a home defense weapon and she was aware her father was an alcoholic). And what an excellent reason to be worried, cause the next person to see her besides her father who killed her, was her boyfriend who ran into the room to see her newly perforated body on the floor.
There were two people when in the room she died in. Her, and her father. This stinks so bad you can smell it from space. I bet you he didn’t even tell her why he was leading her off, she probably thought he was going to apologize.
I’ll tell you what happened and I bet I’m not even making much up. She saw what he had and tried to leave, I bet you 1,000 Lemmy bucks he tried to restrain her so he could explain the importance of the gun, I bet he had had to make her understand why it was so important and she just wouldn’t listen. So he tried to hold her with one hand with a gun in the other, and glocks have a safety on the trigger. I doubt this half drunk asshole who couldn’t even own this gun in multiple states had good trigger discipline.
Every decision that led up to this was his. She had the genius idea to get out of that situation, but he didn’t let her. He led her to the place where she died.
He should be in prison, his current children are in danger. If it was an accident, he is an idiot and there’s no guarantee the death of his daughter changes anything, they tried to get the coroner to recuse themselves for christ’s sake. If he did it on purpose, or in a moment of passion, I don’t have to explain why that’s bad.
It;s very easy to see how the Dad was negligent in possessing a firearm.
Kris Harrison decides that showing his daughter, Lucy Harrison a gun was a good idea
Kris Harrison is drunk
Kris Harrison keeps the gun loaded for “mA pRoTeCtIoN”
Kris Harrison never keeps the safety on
Kris Harrison never cleared the firearm when put it in his hands
Kris Harrison is drunk handling a firearm
Kris Harrison doesn’t hand the grip first instead tries to hand the firearm barrel pointing at his daughter
Kris Harrison is drunk and doesn’t realize it doesn’t take much pressure to pull the trigger back
I would be willing to bet Kris Harrison never took a firearms course.
I would also like to point our, we have no idea where Lucy Harrison was shot. If she was shot in the back, this would reek of murder. If Lucy Harrison was shot in the lower abdomen, then does seem like Kris Harrison was negligent.
I would also like to point our, we have no idea where Lucy Harrison was shot. If she was shot in the back, this would reek of murder. If Lucy Harrison was shot in the lower abdomen, then does seem like Kris Harrison was negligent.
Littler said on the morning of 10 January his partner had asked her father during the Trump row: “How would you feel if I was the girl in that situation and I’d been sexually assaulted?”
Kris Harrison had replied that he had two other daughters who lived with him so it would not upset him that much.
Littler said Lucy became “quite upset” and ran upstairs.
That sure as hell primes any biases…
The framing and title of the BBC article I read was curious. But even knowing the facts, the story sounds very much like he killed her and said it was an accident - tho that’s nothing more than common speculation. A lot of things don’t make sense, which lead people to suspect murder; but reality is messy and irrational. We can only hope a thorough investigation was done.
But the amount of divisive social media pushes using this story in one way or another is concerning. The OP is from X which let’s users monetize their posts, so a good chunk is probably just intentional engagement bait, just as the article was borderline click bait.
Guns only fire when you pull the trigger. They only hit what they are pointed at.
Whatever else you want to believe, he pointed the gun at her chest and he pulled the trigger. Whatever narrative you arrive at has to fit the established facts first.
She stands to his side, he handles the gun on its side over the bed (like one would when examining it), he’s a dipshit and pulls the trigger to mess with it not looking where it’s pointed, bang, oh shit, here we are.
Until an investigation actually comes out, there’s no knowing what happened exactly, and even then it’s if the investigation goes well. But I’d like to err on the side of hope and assume a man wouldn’t intentionally blast his own daughter in the chest in their own home over politics.
Why would you assume a looney tunes chain of events when parents killing their kids is like the most normal fucking thing in history? Sorry to bum you out, but parents murder their kids every single day, its a hell of a lot more common than some rube goldberg chain of bullshit like you are describing.
It seems that the only conclusions that really fit the facts are either it was a complete accident (a tragically common occurrence) or the man planned to murder his own child, which seems unthinkable.
The argument then comes down to whether a grand jury, who presumably heard exhaustive facts about the case, concluded that he should not be prosecuted based on their own biases and desires rather than the letter or intent of the law.
He accidentally pointed the gun directly at his daughter’s chest, he accidentally put his finger in the trigger, and he accidentally pulled the trigger.
He accidentally pointed the gun directly at his daughter’s chest, he accidentally put his finger in the trigger, and he accidentally pulled the trigger.
after arguing with her, telling her that it would not upset him much is she had been raped by Trump, bringing her by the hand to his room where he proceeded to shoot her…
It’s an unfortunately common occurrence, which he is clearly responsible for regardless of his intent, but the argument seems incidental, especially in light of the fact that it was already being treated as a homicide.
The police and DA were pushing for manslaughter but the randomly selected people on the grand jury decided there wasn’t enough evidence even for that reduced charge.
Or are you suggesting they all happened to be trump supporters and conspired to protect this guy because they found out he was “one of the good ones”?
I don’t know, maybe I am stupid, but that sounds far fetched.
There was a heated argument and then he led her into a room no one could see into and she was shot. The most likely excuse the guy could come up with was the gun accidentally went off.
Yeah, they were having a heated argument and then he decided it was a good time to “show her his gun”, so he pulled it out, pointed it at her chest, and pulled the trigger.
He didn’t gun her down in rage, it was an accident when he was showing her the gun according to the article.
Had to clarify that for the people (like the person who tweeted this) who think it is some “MAGA hunted down and shot his daughter for being anti MAGA” bullshit.
You are not immune to propaganda.
The big question is, why would he be showing her a gun when the family repeatedly said that she did not like guns? She probably didn’t even know he was about to show her one. When I was 22 I was terrified of guns and the sight of one in person would send me into a panic. Any time someone offered to show me a gun I refused. In no scenario would I have agreed to look at anyone’s gun ever. Based on her familys statement on her stance with guns, I imagine she would have refused too. Her father had to have mislead her in some way to get her into that room. That’s the issue. This case needs to be revisited. I think something was overlooked.
For the people blowing this up, I’ll repeat what I said in another comment:
When I first read this article, not much had come out in the details of what happened and I had assumed the discussion was much more civil than it was later revealed to be. The guy still deserves jail time regardless but it seems significantly more likely now that this was a case of malicious intent turned into claims of “an accident”. Even if he didn’t know it was loaded he still took intentional actions.
I still stand by my statement of the twitter post obviously being inflammatory and rage baiting however.
Fucking propaganda, fucks sake.
Even if you take all the political bullshit out of this you’ve still got a dumb cunt ‘accidentally’ shooting his daughter after having an argument.
And if you take the argument part out of this you’ve still got a dumb cunt accidentally shooting his daughter.
In every case the guy deserves prison. The end. Full stop.
Now if you look further in to the argument you’ll see that the daughter asked if he would be upset if tRUMP raped her, and father said something along the lines of “I’ve got two other daughters so I wouldn’t be too upset”.
The guy preferred guns and a child rapist over his own daughter, and he should go to jail.
Oh he’s 100% a dipshit that deserves jail time, he caused an avoidable death This headline reads like “Man finds out his daughter is liberal and deliberately shoots her in home for being liberal” which is just patently wrong. The reason I said it is because I’ve already seen other articles and people on here jumping on it to be like he intentionally killed his own daughter. The people jumping on the article title without reading what happened is not the way to do this stuff.
He wasnt even charged with criminal negligence there were no charges against him and he led her into his room to point a gun at her. Even in context you can be pissed about this.
The only context needed is that he is completely free from consequence other than what he chooses for himself.
according to the murderer…
The article said other people were in the home. So multiple witnesses.
This is what I’m talking about. He is highly likely just a dipshit that can’t safely handle firearms, but lots of people are reading the title and saying “MAGA dad assassinates daughter for being liberal”
But then murder daddy took his daughter up to his room out of sight and shot her, there was nobody else in the room with them
Which is usually called “criminal negligence” and should still result in charges and jail time
Well, we really do not know and both options are equally possible… you are just taking one side with no evidence and complain about the other side for doing the same
You’re right, when I first read this article, not much had come out in the details of what happened and I had assumed the discussion was much more civil than it was later revealed to be. The guy still deserves jail time regardless but it seems significantly more likely now that this was a case of malicious intent turned into claims of “an accident”. Even if he didn’t know it was loaded he still took intentional actions.
No, the article says he was in the room with his daughter alone. He led her off by the hand right before she left to go home. Early, mind you, after a big argument the previous day where the father told her he didn’t really care if she got raped.
He led her off by the hand alone into the room with a gun she was terrified of him owning (you don’t need a permit for a home defense weapon and she was aware her father was an alcoholic). And what an excellent reason to be worried, cause the next person to see her besides her father who killed her, was her boyfriend who ran into the room to see her newly perforated body on the floor.
There were two people when in the room she died in. Her, and her father. This stinks so bad you can smell it from space. I bet you he didn’t even tell her why he was leading her off, she probably thought he was going to apologize.
I’ll tell you what happened and I bet I’m not even making much up. She saw what he had and tried to leave, I bet you 1,000 Lemmy bucks he tried to restrain her so he could explain the importance of the gun, I bet he had had to make her understand why it was so important and she just wouldn’t listen. So he tried to hold her with one hand with a gun in the other, and glocks have a safety on the trigger. I doubt this half drunk asshole who couldn’t even own this gun in multiple states had good trigger discipline.
Every decision that led up to this was his. She had the genius idea to get out of that situation, but he didn’t let her. He led her to the place where she died.
He should be in prison, his current children are in danger. If it was an accident, he is an idiot and there’s no guarantee the death of his daughter changes anything, they tried to get the coroner to recuse themselves for christ’s sake. If he did it on purpose, or in a moment of passion, I don’t have to explain why that’s bad.
It;s very easy to see how the Dad was negligent in possessing a firearm.
I would be willing to bet Kris Harrison never took a firearms course.
I would also like to point our, we have no idea where Lucy Harrison was shot. If she was shot in the back, this would reek of murder. If Lucy Harrison was shot in the lower abdomen, then does seem like Kris Harrison was negligent.
Clear cut ‘Criminal negligence causing death’.
Article linked above said she was shot on chest
The gun did not apparently have a safety and safeties are not mandated by law (based on what others have said elsewhere in this post)
there are no accidents when it comes to guns; so it’s still disgusting he got nothing in terms of charges when it came to this.
100% agreed. Every shot from a gun is preventable, owning one means you know the risks and the consequences.
Yep, but…
That sure as hell primes any biases…
The framing and title of the BBC article I read was curious. But even knowing the facts, the story sounds very much like he killed her and said it was an accident - tho that’s nothing more than common speculation. A lot of things don’t make sense, which lead people to suspect murder; but reality is messy and irrational. We can only hope a thorough investigation was done.
But the amount of divisive social media pushes using this story in one way or another is concerning. The OP is from X which let’s users monetize their posts, so a good chunk is probably just intentional engagement bait, just as the article was borderline click bait.
Guns only fire when you pull the trigger. They only hit what they are pointed at.
Whatever else you want to believe, he pointed the gun at her chest and he pulled the trigger. Whatever narrative you arrive at has to fit the established facts first.
Now tell us how he didn’t murder his daughter.
She stands to his side, he handles the gun on its side over the bed (like one would when examining it), he’s a dipshit and pulls the trigger to mess with it not looking where it’s pointed, bang, oh shit, here we are.
Until an investigation actually comes out, there’s no knowing what happened exactly, and even then it’s if the investigation goes well. But I’d like to err on the side of hope and assume a man wouldn’t intentionally blast his own daughter in the chest in their own home over politics.
Why would you assume a looney tunes chain of events when parents killing their kids is like the most normal fucking thing in history? Sorry to bum you out, but parents murder their kids every single day, its a hell of a lot more common than some rube goldberg chain of bullshit like you are describing.
https://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/07/health/filicide-parents-killing-kids-stats-trnd
It seems that the only conclusions that really fit the facts are either it was a complete accident (a tragically common occurrence) or the man planned to murder his own child, which seems unthinkable.
The argument then comes down to whether a grand jury, who presumably heard exhaustive facts about the case, concluded that he should not be prosecuted based on their own biases and desires rather than the letter or intent of the law.
It feels a little far fetched to me.
It definitely is thinkable
He accidentally pointed the gun directly at his daughter’s chest, he accidentally put his finger in the trigger, and he accidentally pulled the trigger.
That is what you believe?
Are you stupid?
after arguing with her, telling her that it would not upset him much is she had been raped by Trump, bringing her by the hand to his room where he proceeded to shoot her…
To be fair, it happens all the fucking time in America. It’s only everything surrounding it that makes that suspicious.
It’s an unfortunately common occurrence, which he is clearly responsible for regardless of his intent, but the argument seems incidental, especially in light of the fact that it was already being treated as a homicide.
The police and DA were pushing for manslaughter but the randomly selected people on the grand jury decided there wasn’t enough evidence even for that reduced charge.
Or are you suggesting they all happened to be trump supporters and conspired to protect this guy because they found out he was “one of the good ones”?
I don’t know, maybe I am stupid, but that sounds far fetched.
First rule of gun ownership is you point your gun only at what you want to destroy.
Guns are not false threats. They are not tools to make everyone chill out.
As a gun owner, I don’t “show” people my gun unless I plan to destroy them.
There was a heated argument and then he led her into a room no one could see into and she was shot. The most likely excuse the guy could come up with was the gun accidentally went off.
No witnesses?
Thing is, even if it was an accident, I think it’s in the realm of normal maga behavior.
Yeah, they were having a heated argument and then he decided it was a good time to “show her his gun”, so he pulled it out, pointed it at her chest, and pulled the trigger.
You are a moron.