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    22 hours ago

    It’s fucking horrifying that the contents of the Trump-Epstein files has now been so normalized that you’re actually defending Massie and his whining about his party’s “months of humiliation.” If the senator was decent human being he would be loudly calling for immediate resignations, investigations, prosecutions and prison time for those proven guilty of these contemptible crimes,

    Massie’s “literally going against everyone else in the party on the ‘Epstein thing’” (Really?), is only notable because of the tacit approval of human trafficking, child rape and murder by the rest of the Grand Old Pedophiles.

    That’s what I’m talking about.

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      22 hours ago

      “Calling for” amongst that congress? They have had people call for that, it changes nothing. Why is it every time a republican turns on the party instead of supporting them in what we agree on we attack them for lack of purity?

      Just like MTG, after the president disowned her left subs were overrun by people attacking her purity. No we can’t agree with her because this or that, a standard that would preclude working with, agreeing with, anyone in congress. Preclude working with anyone really, not the least with groups like Israel being the ones pushing those character attacks with armies of mechanized trolls to play us.

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        13 hours ago

        Massie deserves some credit for what he’s doing, but he does not deserve accolades. He readily admits it’s to protect his party from the political fallout of the worst cover-up this country has ever seen.

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          So what? Who fucking cares if he qualifies for sainthood, as if we, and especially you, would be in a position to judge that. As I said, with the worst people in the world feeding us the opinions on their purity.

          As if we didn’t need allies, had won, and were arrogantly dispensing retribution like after world war 1. We need all the allies we can get, no one is perfect, and we aren’t in a position to judge their character effectively. Let’s work with everyone that agrees with us on an issue, and not reject help we can’t win without because someone tells us they are a bad person.

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            Why do you keep babbling about “purity”? This is not about purity, it’s about basic decency and that is sorely lacking in every single GOP member, including Massie. If you want to sing his praises go right ahead, but don’t expect everyone else to sing harmony.

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              I already explained, you didn’t address my points, just repeated your condemnations of his character, and therefore unwillingness to work with him, because he lacks the decency you crave, a decency sorely from everyone in congress.

              Am I supposed to repeat my point for a third time to your use of emotion and slander to obscure the issue? We couldn’t work with anyone by your standards, not most of the democrats if led to look at their failings either. I am suspicious at this point, as you haven’t answered my point and just continued to manipulate people with your ad hominem arguments, that you aren’t working for/with the right wing, with maga to attack anyone that defects from their party.

              We were flooded by those accounts after MTG, and lo and behold, the same arguments surface. If called on it, not answering with a reasoned argument for why we should spurn the help of people we need and further make it more difficult to get future defectors, but rather personal insults and slander.

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                therefore unwillingness to work with him, because he lacks the decency you crave, a decency sorely from everyone in congress.

                Where did you come up with this?

                I never said anything at all about working with Massie, only commented on the content of his character and his clearly stated motives. You are making obviously false assumptions and then demanding I respond to your assumptions. That’s not going to happen.

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                  10 hours ago

                  How very convenient all the members of the GOP that reject their party and defect get the special not pure enough treatment from those that are led to attack them. Great use of your time and energy, doing Israel’s work for them. It totally doesn’t speak to your understanding of the situation. /s

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                    Lol - You have decided you know exactly what I mean while completely ignoring what I’ve actually written. When called out you actually double-down and again demand a response to your assumptions - as if they have anything to do with me. You’re obviously not firing on all cylinders and not worth any further time or energy.

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        You think outrage about literally decades of kidnapping, human trafficking, child rape, blackmail, murder and cover-up by government means I’ve got a problem? If your sister or cousin was one of their victims, would it matter to you then? Or maybe you would feel something if you were one of those bought, sold and repeatedly raped.

        Today, tomorrow and every day after that our government will continue being twisted beyond recognition by monsters trying to protect themselves, and even if you don’t care about their victims every single one of us is being affected by what they are doing.

        The dribbling release of information is to numb people to the horror of what Trump, Epstein and their ilk have done. The American population is being treated like frogs in slowly heated water and the tepid reactions of people here to what should be unthinkable crimes are proof that it’s working.