• guldukat@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    I think it’s too late. When Trump told evangelicals to vote this time and you never have to again, I believe him.

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      I think he’s referring to when they initially got the Epstein bill passed. But you’re right the GOP has been an embarrassment since 2016 at minimum, I would argue since Reagan.

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    Yup. And in America, nothing will happen. Not a thing. Just some tweets and sound bites in the news. That’s is. America is an embarrassment.

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      I think nearly every country has had moments they are embarrassed about. I just hope this is a moment, but I’m afraid authoritarianism has its hook set.

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      I get the feeling, I feel the same way. Somehow though we need to find a way to keep fighting. Honestly, just conversation and awareness helps.

      I don’t know how, but ultimately this is on us all to fix, there is no one coming to help. So we just need to keep being diligent, take one more step, show up at one more protest, alter your buying habits, do little things to gum up the system, keep posting, keep arguing, keep holding the fucking line instead of just standing there pointing at it.

      America is more than embarrassment, it’s a fucking worldwide disaster and danger. Fuck the news, every last bit of the mainstream media has capitulated or actively participates. Shit like this, Lemmy, mastodon and other human centric spaces, independent and local news sources are where to get your info.

      I’m sorry to harp on you, not directed at you, just a little triggered lately. Self fulfilling inaction will get us nowhere.

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        We live in capitalism. Its power seems inescapable. So did the divine right of kings. Any human power can be resisted and changed by human beings. Resistance and change often begin in art, and very often in our art, the art of words.

        Ursula K. Le Guin

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    It’s not collapsing this was always the plan. Drag it out and delay it so the frog is boiled slowly and their base has time to adjust to the new party line of “pedophilia is ok actually”

    And it’s working, people are already saying they don’t care if Trump is a child rapist. Soon the incel podcasters will be claiming pedophilia laws are just the woke oppressing “real men” from having sex with girls at their “most fertile” in order to lower birthrates among white people or some shit. Then the boomers will be told “remember the back in the good old day? You could rape a 14 year old and nobody minded, and we all grew up fine?, these young folks are just soft” and by 2028 the republicans will be an explicitly pro pedophile party and there will be leaked videos of Trump rapjng kids and they will still have 40%+ of the vote.

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      I think the the real reason they’re dumping all this money into AI is because of exactly this strategy. AI is the only thing in the world that can give them plausible deniability about the validity of pictures and videos. They’re trying to drag things out as slowly as possible because they know it’s inevitable it’ll come out. They’re trying to stuff as much money as possible into AI so that it is as good as possible for when those videos do come out. At that point, they hope to be able to claim that the videos are fake.

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    Collapsing? It was never “built” that something could collapse, their entire “cover up” about this case has been “nuh uh you’re stupid” and the confidence that 28% of the country would literally support child rape if it meant making the woke mad.

    There’s nothing secret that can come out at this point that would change anything, the last batches of even a fraction of the evidence are more than damning, they’re some of the most clear and explicit involvement you could possibly hope for short of a video of Trump harming people with Epstein clapping in the background, which I’m sure exists out there.

    The GOP party broadly are fine with it as long as they’re getting their donations from the huge corporations who are taking advantage of all this to gobble each other up and divide the population so people don’t fix their anger where it belongs, and the dem party isn’t even real.

    Not only has nothing collapsed, it’s stronger than ever. I HATE these headlines.

    You should hate it too, you should reject anything that doesn’t report actual reality and attack them on social media for inflaming division and media spectacle.

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    Because the entire cabinet is filled with people on the list hoping/jockeying for redaction or being paid off for their silence.

    The corruption is orders of magnitude greater than anything witnessed before.

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      pam bondi being the most obvious, being a consultant for QATAR , and bribed by trump during her “trump university lawsuit”

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      The boss, and the party, like to have people on the list in power, because they’ve a check against them. They can ruin them at any time. Least of all the president himself that is scared of being shunted aside, and scared of the details of his own rapeys being released.

      It’s an old tactic, the borgia pope in the 16th century, the spanish pope whose son was the basis of The Prince in Machivelli’s book, compromised the cardinals and or appointed compromised cardinals for the same purpose. I am sure it’s not limited to their either.

      Some of these college clubs are kind of set up around this too, their hazing rituals often do things that could be used against them, and evidence might even exist of them doing it. Such as James Cameron sodomizing a dead pig. (Put is dick in the mouth of a dead pig, one of many hazings those swells did in their aristocratic college clubs.)

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      Right? “In real time” is another way to say “way too fuckin’ slow,” apparently.

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        Sweet Jebus I desperately wanted someone during her deposition to shout “Quiet piggy!” in the middle of her rambling nonsense defending pedos. The chuds would’ve lost their fucking minds.

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          Right in the middle of her bullshit is when they should have said…

          QUIET PIGGY!, is something that Trump has said in the past. You may continue.

          Then keep doing it.

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    Massie: “The fact our leaders are pedophiles, rapists and murderers isn’t a problem, it’s only my party’s reputation that matters.”

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        I commend Massie on recognizing that his Party’s moral code has shifted to be closer to Lavrentiy Beria than Abraham Lincoln

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        he likely isnt funded like the rest of his party, probably not by the same billionaires, and like someone mention probably by donors that thier bottom line is getting hurt by trumps exposure of the files and tariffs.

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        Damning with praise so faint even Hubble couldn’t detect it.

        Your statement is basically equivalent to “Massie is the only one in the entire party who isn’t a criminal co-conspirator.” (And even then, the scope of that claim is limited to that particular set of crimes!)

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          He’s literally going against everyone else in the party on the Epstein thing… I don’t understand what you are talking about.

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            It’s fucking horrifying that the contents of the Trump-Epstein files has now been so normalized that you’re actually defending Massie and his whining about his party’s “months of humiliation.” If the senator was decent human being he would be loudly calling for immediate resignations, investigations, prosecutions and prison time for those proven guilty of these contemptible crimes,

            Massie’s “literally going against everyone else in the party on the ‘Epstein thing’” (Really?), is only notable because of the tacit approval of human trafficking, child rape and murder by the rest of the Grand Old Pedophiles.

            That’s what I’m talking about.

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              “Calling for” amongst that congress? They have had people call for that, it changes nothing. Why is it every time a republican turns on the party instead of supporting them in what we agree on we attack them for lack of purity?

              Just like MTG, after the president disowned her left subs were overrun by people attacking her purity. No we can’t agree with her because this or that, a standard that would preclude working with, agreeing with, anyone in congress. Preclude working with anyone really, not the least with groups like Israel being the ones pushing those character attacks with armies of mechanized trolls to play us.

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                Massie deserves some credit for what he’s doing, but he does not deserve accolades. He readily admits it’s to protect his party from the political fallout of the worst cover-up this country has ever seen.

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                  So what? Who fucking cares if he qualifies for sainthood, as if we, and especially you, would be in a position to judge that. As I said, with the worst people in the world feeding us the opinions on their purity.

                  As if we didn’t need allies, had won, and were arrogantly dispensing retribution like after world war 1. We need all the allies we can get, no one is perfect, and we aren’t in a position to judge their character effectively. Let’s work with everyone that agrees with us on an issue, and not reject help we can’t win without because someone tells us they are a bad person.

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                You think outrage about literally decades of kidnapping, human trafficking, child rape, blackmail, murder and cover-up by government means I’ve got a problem? If your sister or cousin was one of their victims, would it matter to you then? Or maybe you would feel something if you were one of those bought, sold and repeatedly raped.

                Today, tomorrow and every day after that our government will continue being twisted beyond recognition by monsters trying to protect themselves, and even if you don’t care about their victims every single one of us is being affected by what they are doing.

                The dribbling release of information is to numb people to the horror of what Trump, Epstein and their ilk have done. The American population is being treated like frogs in slowly heated water and the tepid reactions of people here to what should be unthinkable crimes are proof that it’s working.

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    We know. They know we know. They depend on the pedo loving right to still vote for them and to cover for them - sadly they will.

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    USA politicians don’t resign, they will wheel an 100-year-old comatose ghoul in front of the cameras to vote, they do not care. (remember Byrd? God Lord)

    He had no clue for months. Reagan too, and now Biden and Trump. But, it really doesn’t matter I guess. The actual decisions are made elsewhere.

    The 70s was our last gasp, we are running on fumes alone