• minorkeys@lemmy.world
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    55 minutes ago

    Not sure that’s an acceptable level of violence for pervertry but who am I to get in the way of women’s violent fantasies?

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      42 minutes ago

      There is no level of violence unacceptable for self defense against sexual assault. Keep your hands to yourself.

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        27 minutes ago

        Disagree. Lighting someone on fire for the lowest form of sexual assault is not okay.

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    6 hours ago

    I am a man. I am buying six of these, a pair of rollerskates, a hockey stick, a mini fire extinguisher, and some string.

    See you guys on TV later!

  • Venia Silente@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 hours ago

    Well with women having these on hand at least the incels will finally achieve one of their objectives:

    Women thinking they’re smokin’ hot.

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        9 hours ago

        Typically without solid training what happens is the weapon gets turned on the wrong person.

        But, for the sake of a good time we can imagine some asshole pervs getting lit up like a cigar. Heh heh. Awesome.

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          I hope the QA is good. Training or no training, these aliexpress specials will probably just self immolate in your bag.

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          7 hours ago

          Also, fire doesn’t just stay put. Yes, you might burn the attacker, but catch the building on fire killing people.

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            8 hours ago

            Idk, having something that could melt metal from a safe distance as a deterrent seems a bit overkill. But don’t take my word for it, I might be overreacting.

            • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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              8 hours ago

              It’s just running on butane - it won’t have enough heat mass to melt metal (and produce any notable flames). Probably it won’t do much more to a person than startle the hell out of them and maybe ignite their hair.

                • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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                  7 hours ago

                  I think even oxy-butane tops out at 2,000°C (which is 50,000°F or something idk). 3,300°C is around the max for oxy-acetylene, which is I’m assuming what the person writing this was looking at.

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            8 hours ago

            Great, create more fear in society and pit people against each other and give them weapons, too. Winning concept.

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                By that logic, shouldn’t everyone carry a gun too? If it’s theoretically only going to be used against an active attacker, what’s the big deal?

                (Note: this isn’t an argument for carrying guns)

                • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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                  A lot of people carry guns specifically for that reason. I’m not saying it’s a perfect solution, but it speaks of a bigger issue that is being ignored. If people are forced to look out for themselves then the options become very limited and outside of the possibility of anything approaching ideal. I’m not choosing to worry about the attackers getting set on fire in this situation, my concerns and those of the people who have a need for things like this have already been outright ignored entirely. People don’t have a better option, it was taken from them already.

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        8 hours ago

        Handing out weapons to the population and expect them to use them responsibly has worked so fucking well so far…

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    If I don’t hear about women being arrested because some creep got immolated for catcalling them, I am going to be disappointed.

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      Over catcalling? That seems somewhat insane though no?

      Unwanted touching or stalking or threatening and such i could see of course, but reciprocating men trying to get a womans attention (in a crappy and rude fashion) with literally death and/or permanent disfigurement and pain is a little drastic.

      We rightly abhor the insane acid attacks committed on women over some minor transgression out of some fucked sense of honor, sometimes happening in certain countries; how is this a viable position to hold just because the genders are reversed?

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        The European age of mass human sacrifice in the form of witch burning (1450 to 1750) is certainly something we don’t want to bring back.

        If someone’s physical safety is under threat then this seems like a reasonable tool for self protection.

        Let’s hope someone doesn’t abuse it.

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        Theres catcalling, and then theres catcalling. Someone shouting something across the street should probally be ignored if possible.

        Someone coming up behind you to tell you they are going rape you? Fire time.

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      Well, that’s the issue I find with this device, the same as guns or general physical force used against harasment and violence against women: it just leads to the woman getting arrested because the issue in the first place is that law enforcement and courts DO NOT take harasment and violence against women seriously

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        Bingo. This isn’t a solution to the problem, it’s a response. The actual problem isn’t being addressed in the slightest. People defending themselves will continue to get blamed for standing their ground. The only solace to be had from that is that women being arrested for “assault” will serve as external confirmation that these things are being used and that they work.

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      8 hours ago

      I too hope that anyone using this shit gets prosecuted and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

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    8 hours ago

    Selling something to anyone that can shoot flames up to 20 feet seems like a bad idea. Predators should probably be set on fire, but this sounds like it would take the entire block down with it.

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    8 hours ago

    Seems kind of fun. Not to barbecue people, just to light candles and start bonfires and other completely unnecessary uses, like ending weevils.