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    Process this: If you think that the stuff you’ve seen in the Epstein Files is outrageous, and people should be tossed in dungeons over it, understand the very worst stuff has been quarantined. If you this stuff is bad, wait until we find out what they’re hiding.

    Epstein dealt with a lot of evil people and evil deeds, and he said that Trump was the most evil person he’d ever known. I’m hearing stories of murdered babies and such, and as crazy as they sound, so far the stuff I’ve heard from the Epstein Files has turned out to be true, so I’m assuming the rumors are true as well.

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    This needs to involve some time in prison for the guilty.

    And Pam is most certainly guilty given her little performances in Congress.

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        Given this, should blantant partisanship disqualify you from the bench? I’m fine with conservative leaning justices, but this is not justice, nor law. Making decisions on partisan lines should disqualify anyone from serving in the justice system, end of story. Be they blatantly left or blatantly Pedo protectors, they should not serve in a court of law. It’s not Republican law, or democratic law, it is law or it isn’t.

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          It should, but the process to get rid of them is impeachment, and that’s blocked by the Republicans.

          And what justices are you referring to? Bondi’s a political appointee, and leads DOJ, which is a bunch of prosecutors, no judges there.

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          She’s an AG, not a justice, and so is appointed by the president and confirmed by senate. Presumably the confirmation is to keep this position from being wholly partisan. But there’s so many ways for that to fail, which seems exacerbated by the two party system we’ve become entrenched in.

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            The two party system but also the fact that, around the world, we act like 51% is anything more statistical noise. That’s not a majority. We need to start seeing the bar as being 60-70%, 50% is way too low and results in, functionally, less than half the country being represented.

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              Yep, and that requires abandoning the first past the post election style. And probably also the electoral college as it currently stands.

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                The electoral college is the worse of the two defects and should be ditched first. Or subverted by the compact among states to cast their electoral votes in proportion to the popular vote in each state.

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                Don’t worry, in Canada our “centrist” party(read: at the moment, incredibly conservative) was elected in 2015 on that promise…and they immediately gave up on it when they learned they’d probably never win again. And then we let them get away with three other times, if I remember correctly!

                Hurray!

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                  It’s all such a joke. I even forgot to point out all of our legal bribery that’s gotta go too. At least North America has plenty of woodland to hide in. For now, anyway.

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    Congress:

    The DOJ must provide all the documents, not withold information for sake of saving embarrassment or protecting politicians, and let us see all redactions or they’re breaking the law!

    Hey DOJ, the DOJ broke the law! Arrest yourself!

    We’re so smart!

    Me:

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    It’s remarkable that they curated it and the files still show that a large portion of the modern far right was somewhere between acquaintances with and funded by and taking orders from a convicted child sex trafficker.

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    So since they wouldn’t release over half of the documents. We can assume those all have trump and his buddies in them. Millions of documents on those people specifically.

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    The story is not news. Last year we heard that the fbi had 100,000 man hours on people making redactions of trumps involvement; the files aren’t even half of them, and there has been NO video released, blurred or otherwise

    The wall st journal is a Murdoch shit rag, we cannot trust ANY US media - NYT, Wapo, WSJ, cnn, msnbc, Fox, they are ALL complicit in the coverup, and actively aiding the fascist takeover of the US government

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      Because sociopaths are sociopaths, even if they’re women.

      Though I do wonder who shat in Bondi’s cornflakes to make her such a concentrated ball of corruption and spite. She seems like she hates the whole world, but lacks the nerve to leave it.

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      I think there’s a complicated kind of fig leaf which is very clearly unethical but it allows these people to retain some dignity.

      I’m sure there’s a word for it but in criminal justice everyone needs a lawyer to defend them, even someone accused of awful crimes with very strong positive evidence of their crimes. I’ve heard defense lawyers say that even if they dislike their client, they need to do their very best to defend them or else their lack of defense might be the grounds for an appeal later. That does kinda make sense to me.

      The extension of this concept is that everyone gets to make their best argument. Even in business / contractual disputes, both sides have an opportunity to make their best argument, their best version of the truth. “Best version” in this context means, emphasising your best actions and minimising your worst.

      I guess this can kind of be corrupted in a way to be “well if I don’t spin this for <asshole> then someone else will”, which is where ethics goes out the window really. As in, someone accused of a crime might be entitled to appropriate defense, but someone who’s been abusing women their entire life is not entitled to have a government official cover up their behavior by obfuscating details or documents. In the same way, often in a professional role your only recourse if you object to something is to resign.

      In summary, Bondi is an awful human but this is how I imagine she justifies that.

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    And yet the orange turdsack’s name still appeared more times than the rest of the big names combined… quite telling, ain’t it?

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    Trump called in every favour that was owed, used every asset he could to get a second term in the white house, ffs he staged the shooting at that rally so he would win so he could keep those files hidden and considering how much effort there is invested in diversions just to keep everyone’s mind of the files.