• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    8 months ago

    The saddest/funniest thing to me about this whole bit is how every. single. US. person defending their right to righteously beat the shit out of someone for picking their pocket never, ever, even considers the idea that they might lose.

    It’s just like gun owners in general. They all think they’re a perfect shot and the other guy must be like a Storm Trooper in Star Wars and can’t hit the broad side of a barn.

    Everyone thinks they’re the hero and that they don’t need cops and laws until they’re the one bleeding out in an alleyway on the verge of death because they were stupid enough to “fight back.”

    US Americans are completely fucking unhinged and live in a fantasy land where somehow every single one of them is the biggest and strongest with the biggest dick and will always win because their cause is righteous. What a crock of shit.

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      8 months ago

      Willingness to stand up for oneself is not necessarily the same as one overestimating their ability to fight.

      I was bullied regularly as a kid. I was no match at all for most of the bullies, they easily had strength, size, numbers, and fighting experience over me, but since the schools wouldn’t or couldn’t do a damn thing to protect me, especially when the bullies followed me well away from school grounds, the only choices I had were to either endure it, or to try to change the situation by standing up for myself. Even if I got my ass beat even worse just for standing up for myself, at the very least it made it clear to them that I was no longer guaranteed to be a frictionless target and that sometimes changes things for the better.

      It’s not about winning. It’s about putting up the fight, because the potential outcomes of not fighting back aren’t always much better than standing up for oneself.

      That said, I personally wouldn’t want to put a foreign trip in jeopardy by assaulting anyone if it wasn’t an actual self defense situation, much like back at home. I’m just responding to this idea that willingness to fight is not the same thing as being overly confident that one will come out on top.

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        8 months ago

        and that sometimes changes things for the better.

        And a lot of times it changes it for the worse, too. What even is this argument?

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          8 months ago

          I don’t think you understand what it’s like to be constantly bullied and constantly on guard. At some point there is no concept of “worse”. At some point there is only the sense of “literally anything in the world except this.”