“best stories”
posted a full decade after fallout 4
i wish there was a company that made dogshit games
with some of the best worlds and stories everI mean, they stopped having good stories and worlds 10 years ago.
Weird how that only includes Fallout 76 and Starfield
I forgot how old I am / what year it is.
So yeah, as VerilyFemme says, its actually worse.
Fallout 4’s story is awful.
The dialogue system, with basically 4 ways to say the same thing, with different emotional states?
Terrible.
You wanna do something like that?
Take notes from Deus Ex. Give actual meaningfully different choices and dialog, that lets you actually reflect yourself, your decisions, your pov, or what your idea of the character is… you know, roleplaying.
The world is basically also not great… a few kind of neat world/lore ideas, a lot that suck and/or contradict previous canon in ways that are just stupid, tropey, or in some cases break significant chunks of the universe.
I honestly never even cared for Skyrim, I was hoping it would be more like Morrowind, instead it was even less like Morrowind than Oblivion, barely played it.
Fallout 3?
Well, story was kind of notorious for having to retcon itself in order to make post-endgame anything even possible, and of course your supermutant companion who could easily tank the radiation damage just won’t let you sever the thread of destiny or whatever.
It had some good spots, but also a fair deal of just not well thought out things: How in the hell does Lamplight cave just have an ongoing society of only children, thats been going on that way for nearly 200 years?
good stories: 20 years past
good worlds: 18 years past
just imo
Let’s rely on the modding community to fix our broken mess that’s riddled with game breaking bugs then release a patch 10 years later that breaks all mods.
Jokes on you, starfield has paid mods. Now they can’t even get that right.
at’s riddled with game breaking bugs then release a patc And refuse to move away from their ancient engine 💀
This is why I was so mad about Starfield, on its own merits it’s a perfectly mediocre game that I nearly enjoyed for about 15-20 hours, but the instant I booted it up I realized it was still on the same mf engine they used for Fallout 4. Whole game plays like a high quality F4 mod. I was mad as hell, that was the one thing I was actually somewhat excited for about Starfield was that the space setting and new IP might actually give them the opportunity to cook up a new game engine.
At this point I’m expecting to see ES6 come out on yet another further Frankensteined iteration of this crusty bitch and I’m just going to laugh about it. I’ve lost hope that it’ll get better and there’s a slim chance I might get pleasantly surprised.
Probably helps that they got one of those worlds from another company
And when they let yet another company do a game in the series as a one-off, it became widely regarded as the best title in the series post Bethesda acquisition.
What game was that?
fallout new vegas
One of their games was made by another company entirely but now they’re making other worlds outside them
Have you played many of their original settings? I thought they’d be different. They’re all passingly interesting but haven’t really stuck in my head quite the same way
It’s kind of a ship of Theseus situation, the writing from early TES games (and the writers too I’m assuming) isn’t the same as later ones. Making a more approachable game comes with sacrifices too.
wait, which one?
The first Fallout game was made by Interplay and second one by Black Isle, Interplay’s in-house dev studio.
They also looked a wee bit different from Bethesda’s entries.
The fact that ‘Fallout’ 3/4 are in any way good after having been acquired by a different company and made in a different paradigm is a damn unicorn in the gaming world.
Fallout
Stories is debatable now.
I mean, I guess this is true if you’ve never read a book before…
Yeah they should have read great hits like The Lusty Argonian Maid!
It was always a pleasure to see that in Oblivion and Skyrim. Is that the only book in the series where you’ve met the writer in one of the games?
I tried reading a book once, but the controls were too fiddly and my progress through the main quest was too slow.
There was no repeatable sidequests too. Where’s the replayability?
And thus choose your own adventure books are reborn
Also fiddly controls.
Just reload previous save states
remember when everyone was excited about 76 LOL
also diablo 4 LOL
also starfield LOL
They weren’t excited for Diablo 4 for the world and story, though.
Well not too much for Starfield. Back when they announced it they were comments about how their engine isn’t good enough to pull off the things they were promising. It’s why I didn’t pre-order it.
i expected bethesda graphics and gameplay, which were always meh after skyrim
what i didn’t expect was the pointless boring in fact fucking tedious everything else involved in playing a video game-- wtf is this fetch quest about talking trees? go talk to this guy, and then go talk to that guy, and then and then and then-- what a fucking let-down.
don’t worry i learned my lesson. i’ll never buy another bethesda title unless a year has passed and it still has a minimum ‘very positive’ rating. maybe not even then. fuck bethesda
i’ll never buy another bethesda title unless a year has passed
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Yes that is absolutely a valid way of approaching the problem although you do then sometimes run into the problem that the game you’re trying to play is no longer supported (service been shut down left and right).
I also think it’s a bit unnecessary, by all means play the classics if that’s what you’re into, but if you’re doing it to save money, it’s not as if there aren’t high quality indie games being made right now, so it’s not like you have to just play old games to be frugal.
Don’t worry, I know of good new indie games, and I’m not playing those either.
i love indie games also-- in fact playing through hades 2 right now, which is hard to believe how awesome it is. other notable amazing titles include balatro, DRG (ROCK AND STONE), dead cells, delta V, dysmantle-- too many to name. so yea… i have no problem not buying a AAA game for $70+
I got it as soon as I got a GPU that could comfortably run it… because it was bundled with said GPU. I did activate the key but never bothered to actually install it. Maybe later in case the handful of modders actually make something cool in there.
I was kinda interested before launch, hoping that this would be the game to finally force them to meaningfully overhaul the engine they’ve been carrying around since Morrowind (with some bugs dating back to then). Of course it wasn’t and of course they didn’t.
Imagine needing reasons not to pre-order. I bet you pay more than €30 for games too…
Is that supposed to be some sort of personality failing?
Paying 60 dollars for modern shit AAA games is a personality failing in my book. As well as preordering any game.
Early access is borderline acceptable under certain conditions.
But I didn’t pre-order it did I?
I’m really not sure what you’re upset about.
I remember being excited for Diablo 3 💀
Diablo is a Blizzard IP
true, and fuck blizzard too
Ultima Online LOL
yes, as a huge ultima nerd, i was excited for UO. after spending hours barely being able to do anything because of my 386 PC and 14.4 dialup speed, and then getting killed because of all the lag and losing everything, i said i guess i don’t have the money to play this game, and left it
but that wasn’t bethesda-- still origin at that point
It ain’t even Bethesda’s now. EA bought them, not Bethesda, or ZeniMax, or Microsoft.
there was some point in the not too distant past where i said “ok, everything is bullshit now” and stopped paying attention. ultima is EA now? ok. fuck EA, and fuck ultima
Yep. And their management is ultimately what led Richard Garriot to quit.
corporate bullshit. same shit with ken and roberta williams of old school sierra
As a child their games where always too difficult for me, so I preferred Lucas Arts adventures but looking back at them now they had some real gems. Games with… soul
UO was pretty popular and good up until EA bought Origin in 2004.
The monkey’s paw makes a shrug motion.
I’m picturing something like Thing.
That monkey’s paw crossed its fingers, they barely make games anymore.
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