• scarabic@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Of course childless people have needs too and deserve workplace flexibility. This post smacks of looking into your neighbor’s bowl though. If you don’t have all the additional obligations that come with parenting, don’t claim to be the same as those who do. Whatever life concerns you also have: your own health, aging parents, mental wellness, pets, etc etc etc parents ALSO have on top of kids. So get the workplace flexibility you need without crying about what parents get. If you know, you know. And if you don’t know, you really don’t know (but your mother does).

    I’m so fucking sick of being looked at like a prodigal slob for being a parent. SMfH. Here we are taking swipes at each other instead of focusing on the employers. Good job playing right into their hands. Fuck.

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      7 hours ago

      Nobody has anything against parents getting these benefits or is saying that they don’t need them. What’s the problem is that everyone should be getting them, parents or not.

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        6 hours ago

        I can agree with that as far as it goes. In some workplaces there can be zero sum cases where someone has to be on duty. If it comes to that someone who has a sick kid to look after should get the flexibility over the person who doesn’t. And hey if the parent’s kid is not sick, and the childless person’s grandmother is, then THEY should get the flexibility.

        Just stop saying that you need all the same flexibility as parents. You don’t.

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        6 hours ago

        Yes. If you can’t take care of your kids and have to rely on strangers (coworkers) to sacrifice their life, don’t have kids.

        I beg to differ - there are definitely people in here that are against parents getting these benefits.

        What’s shocking to me is that people are blaming parents more than the system/employers that overburdens the workers without kids.

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          4 hours ago

          Yeah I just tune those people out. Advocating for a child free existence is all well and good, and believe me, there isnt a parent on this planet that hasn’t had a split second thought about how much easier it was before they had kids at some point or another.

          But when it crosses the line to militancy, sorry but people are gonna breed, and whether they think thats appropriate or not frankly isnt their concern and their opinion on that carries precisely as much weight with me as my opinion to have children likely has on them…literal none.

          But whatever they do, dont call having kids some kind of path to fuckin easy street. If they think that is the case, I invite them to come over and take care of my kids for a couple days and see how much fun it is.

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            4 hours ago

            But whatever they do, dont call having kids some kind of path to fuckin easy street. If they think that is the case, I invite them to come over and take care of my kids for a couple days and see how much fun it is.

            Yeah this idea that parents get all these concessions and rewards and tax deductions that make their lives demonstrably easier than anyone else’s is laughable. Even the paper napkin math on that doesn’t work out in the slightest.

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      8 hours ago

      Seriously - the employers could end all of this nitpicking about who gets what by simply offering the same level of time off and flexibility to everyone.

      Parents aren’t the enemy here and never have been.

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        6 hours ago

        If everyone had the flexibility for everything they need in life, people would still complain if parents get more because they need more.

        If childless people aren’t getting the minimum they need for health and wellness and family care or whatever might be named, then go agitate for that. Leave parents out of it.

        I don’t need the same accommodations as a worker in a wheelchair. I’m not running around saying everyone should get them.

        Raising kids is literally essential work to support human civilization. People gripe about parental benefits but somehow still want children raised well to do all the jobs and create this world we live in.

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          6 hours ago

          The people complaining can suck it.

          Employers should still offer enough flexibility for everyone to have a good work/life balance. Period. Does that mean some people like parents and caregivers may need more at times? Yes and so be it.

          I still believe everyone should be able to take time as they need it and in the manner in which they need to take it.

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            5 hours ago

            Agree completely. Even better, that’s what my employer offers. Take time off when you need it. As long as your work is done there is no cap. Any job can be remote. All teams are distributed and international so there is really no set hours.

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              5 hours ago

              My work place is similar - everyone can take time off as they need it. We all support one another. Get the work done. Go home and enjoy your life.