Except Switzerland. Yaay second most expensive healthcare system in the world over here.
And you know why? Because we have a system of private insurance, with various band aid fixes aimed at preventing the worst outcomes. It’s better than what the US gets, but not a good system because it’s still fundamentally wrong.
This is a silly point to make. Right wingers always make this point because they hate for rich people to ever have to contribute to society.
A well designed taxation system takes from people in rough proportion to ability to pay and then distributes to people in rough proportion of need.
So yeah, it cost someone somewhere something, but the fact that you can rock up at the maternity unit, std clinic or cancer specialist without your credit card in civilised countries is called free healthcare, and whingeing about how much some higher rate taxpayer could have spent on a supercar or yacht or second home if we didn’t use that money to save someone’s life is silly.
Yeah, ok, so everything in healthcare costs something to somebody but now the word free has no meaning in relation to goods and services, so we can’t use ever it?! Nope nope nope. Free has a meaning that’s very clear in this context, this is free healthcare and it’s good.
I’m sick of “won’t anybody think of the poor higher rate taxpayers?”. No. They’re not poor. Literally. Fix the tax system so that global corporations, multimillionaires and billionaires pay at a rate that approaches regular income tax, and everyone except the grotesquely wealthy will have a more reasonable tax bill and we can all have nice things.
Fair point. There is Medicaid for the poor in the USA. It covers vaccines, and like 40% of births in the US are covered by Medicaid. But for those that earn too much it sucks to pay for insurance.
In mexico is all 100% but at the age and rythm dictated by government officials (doctors, at least).
Some optional vaccines (think second shots for non endemic illneses for example) are paid but even then you can get them for free if they have them in health centers.
In the United States even the most basic health insurance is hundreds of dollars a month. I imagine it’s cheaper in European countries.
It’s literally free in most of them
Except Switzerland. Yaay second most expensive healthcare system in the world over here.
And you know why? Because we have a system of private insurance, with various band aid fixes aimed at preventing the worst outcomes. It’s better than what the US gets, but not a good system because it’s still fundamentally wrong.
Well, paid in advance by taxes, anyway.
This is a silly point to make. Right wingers always make this point because they hate for rich people to ever have to contribute to society.
A well designed taxation system takes from people in rough proportion to ability to pay and then distributes to people in rough proportion of need.
So yeah, it cost someone somewhere something, but the fact that you can rock up at the maternity unit, std clinic or cancer specialist without your credit card in civilised countries is called free healthcare, and whingeing about how much some higher rate taxpayer could have spent on a supercar or yacht or second home if we didn’t use that money to save someone’s life is silly.
Yeah, ok, so everything in healthcare costs something to somebody but now the word free has no meaning in relation to goods and services, so we can’t use ever it?! Nope nope nope. Free has a meaning that’s very clear in this context, this is free healthcare and it’s good.
I’m sick of “won’t anybody think of the poor higher rate taxpayers?”. No. They’re not poor. Literally. Fix the tax system so that global corporations, multimillionaires and billionaires pay at a rate that approaches regular income tax, and everyone except the grotesquely wealthy will have a more reasonable tax bill and we can all have nice things.
Fair point. There is Medicaid for the poor in the USA. It covers vaccines, and like 40% of births in the US are covered by Medicaid. But for those that earn too much it sucks to pay for insurance.
It still sounds crazy to me that you guys pay to be born. What a way to start off in life.
No no no. Our parents pay for us to be born, that way they can hold it over us for the rest of our lives
All vaccines? Where I am in Europe, some vaccines are covered and it varies by group, but not all.
In mexico is all 100% but at the age and rythm dictated by government officials (doctors, at least).
Some optional vaccines (think second shots for non endemic illneses for example) are paid but even then you can get them for free if they have them in health centers.
Ok yeah similar here but sounds better there. Nice