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      Only thing about it I don’t like is that the fuel level is in discrete 1/8th tank increments. I love having the throttle gauge on the hud tho

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      For those who don’t know it doesn’t stay in position, it springs back in the middle and you have to look at the display to see the position you’re in. Except for park which is inexplicably a separate button.

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        HOLY SHIT, THIS IS WHERE MY NISSAN PATHFINDER GOT THIS SHIT FROM??? I hate it with a passion. The worst is going through an automatic car wash and HOPING it actually shifts into neutral. And then once it does shift into neutral, it beeps a warning on the dashboard and tells you how to exit the vehicle while in neutral. JUST LET ME SHIFT THE FUCKING THING LIKE A NORMAL VEHICLE AND YOU WOULDN’T HAVE TO DO THAT. I only drive it for work, and I swear I will never buy a personal vehicle newer than 2008 ever again.

        ETA: You wanna guess how to guarantee it shifts into neutral? “Shift” into park, DON’T press the side button, which for some reason mechanically blocks the shifter from going into the reverse position only, and then move it towards the reverse position. If you move it in the other direction, there’s nothing preventing you from shifting back into drive.

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        Also, it’s a totally random shift order from normal. You push it left and down for drive, hold it left for neutral, and left and up for reverse, and right and down for B. What’s B? B is regenerative braking Engine Braking, I’m a fool, and you can’t shift directly to it from any mode other than drive. It also does not work with cruise control. The Prius is a deeply strange vehicle.

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          Haha! Fool! My Prius knowledge is finally useful! B mode is actually engine braking. Energy from the wheels is intentionally wasted to turn the engine (with valves timed to compress and release air, with no fuel). It’s there basically just for big downhills, to save your brake pads a bit. The Prius uses regenerative braking all the time with the brake pedal (unless the traction battery is full).

          By the way, cruise control does use engine braking under a specific circumstance - again with downhills, if you’ve filled up the battery, preventing further regeneration, and it needs to slow down, it will use engine braking even outside of B mode.

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            Oh hey, I drive this era of Prius and I didn’t know that! Cool!

            Not that I have many downhill to use it on cuz I live in fucking indiana but y’know. Still cool to learn more about my car :D

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            Oh hey, I drive this era of Prius and I didn’t know that! Cool!

            Not that I have many downhill to use it on cuz I live in fucking indiana but y’know. Still cool to learn more about my car :D

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            I am a fool! Thank you for sharing your knowledge, I didn’t realize I had been misinformed! Engine braking totally makes sense though.

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        A shifter like that - with no indication that it’s in park - killed Anton Yelchin. (Though that was a Chrysler product.)

        They should be illegal. The thing that puts the giant machine in motion should be a big fucking lever.

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          The instrument panel shows the shifter position. The park button has a light that illuminates when in park. The transmission automatically switches to park when the car is turned off. If the door is opened when the transmission is in anything other than park, the car sounds a continuous warning tone, turns on the large red master warning light on the instrument panel, and shows a clear warning message on the central display.

          The prius used the same shifter design for nearly 20 years from 2003 to 2022, without issue. It is a well designed system with measures to prevent leaving the car while in park.

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              When they found his car, the transmission was in neutral, and the engine was running.

              Yeltchen’s jeep’s transmission was a bad design. It was a lever with a button. Shifting required the driver to hold the button while moving the lever. To select park, you hold the button and push it fully forward. If you do the exact same motion but don’t push the lever fully forward the car will go into neutral with no indication other than lights. Its a faulty design that chrysler knew about before Yeltchen’s death and chose not to fix it.

              With the prius shifter, all moving gears are selected by using the lever, whereas park is selected using the push button. There is no way to set park and accidentally get anything else. The prius shifter was designed from the ground up to work safely despite being a monostable design. They designed it properly and its fine.

              The faulty and recalled chrysler shifter was an attempt to make a monostable version of the traditional automatic shifter, but doing so they removed all the tactile feedback that made those designs shift unambiguously.

              Yeltchen would still be alive today if he was driving a prius.