It has several transsexual characters that are properly fleshed out and not just tokens that are put in the game in order to fulfill some specific criteria. And they are presented as “just another npc with lots of interaction”, and you need to talk quite a bit with them to notice they are trans.
It is often considered to be the game with the best transsexual representation among all mainstream games out there.
Wait, what? I’ve done like every quest there is to do in that game and I’ve never come across a single trans character. The game is hella gay, but there aren’t any trans characters to my knowledge.
I think it’s the usual projection. Like how a bunch of people swear Gwen Stacy from the Spider-Man movies is trans despite zero evidence. Let people have their head canon and move on.
Yeah there aren’t any … actually trans characters that I can think of … ?
But like here are some reasons that do exist that I can think of:
Multiple potential companion characters have either story arcs or at least important bits to their personal back story that involve them at least discussing if not affirming their gender/sexuality.
Arcade is a gay man, who jokes (?) about how the Legion would just crucify him for being gay.
Veronica has a whole bit where all she wants is to wear a real, proper dress for once, to feel prettier than she is accustomed to, normally always being dressed in either essentially military gear or nondescript clothes meant to make her look unremarkable, as a scout/spy.
She expresses genuine glee, literally squeals with joy if you find her a nice dress.
You got FISTO, who … is a robot, that uh, yeah, you can probably guess.
There’s also a whole storyline that revolves around the sexual trauma of an NCR soldier, you are essentially able to be an impromptu therapist if you have the requisite skills.
You as the player can take perks, that allow you to actually seduce some characters in some situations, and you can pick to be straight, gay/lesbian, or even take both, and be bi.
You can actually kill at least one person this way, specifically as a potential plot point… beyond the perks also just giving you general combat buffs against npcs.
Basically… its … possibly the first, if not at least one of the first 3D roleplaying game that has well written characters, that allows the player to define their own in game gender/sexual orientation as a fairly involved part of how you actually play the game, and it shows you a world with other characters that are basically doing the same.
This was pretty uncommon for a game to do or have, back in 2010.
Closest comparison for a popular game might be Mass Effect 1? But … the romance options in that game are much more ‘tacked on’ and less integral to the rest of the game.
I’m just salty that you can’t romance Veronica or Christine or even let the two of them know how the other is doing. I just wanted the both of them to be happy (｡╯︵╰｡)
Now I want to go back and play through Mass Effect again. There are so few games where you can set your friends up with each other. It’s usually “the player shacks up with one and the others remain all alone”.
Erp, that one’s deprecated and has been rolled into this modpack, that adds a bunch of DLC characters as full companions.
Christine
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If you speak to her in the vicinity of Veronica, there will be some special dialogue and a unique perk granted
I’ve not actually used these (aw fuck, here I go playing New Vegas again), but these may scratch your itch.
Also… there are a fair deal of romance overhaul /expansion mods, I don’t know if any of them do anything specifically with Courier + Veronica or Veronica + Christine off the top of my head.
And finally… there are a series of essentially … lets say XXX rated and/or fairly to highly problematic mods for New Vegas on LoversLab.
It… might be possible to configure them to work with these other mods, or they might just do something somewhat analagous, or… they might grant you the ability to put Veronica into a breast milking contraption, while you are busy crafting a cure for the STD you picked up by raw dogging a fiend who did not succesfully ambush you.
Hazard Suit On before you look into any of those mods lol.
Veronica is an explicit lesbian who used to date Christine, you just can’t romance her or any of the companions.
And yes, I know there are mods, but it’s hard for mods to be good enough that they don’t subtract from the base experience. In a game like Skyrim, the bar for integrating content is lower because of how compartmentalized everything is (and the writing, while consistently not horrible, isn’t that great). With New Vegas, there is a lot more to fuck up, so I’m hesitant to add mods for fear that it’ll make the game worse (I’ve certainly experienced such mods, even in Fallout 4 and Skyrim modding scenes). The biggest thing I’ve learned about modding is which mods not to install in the first place, and for New Vegas that’s most of them.
Courtesy of @Lehmuusa@nord.pub in the previous thread.
Wait, what? I’ve done like every quest there is to do in that game and I’ve never come across a single trans character. The game is hella gay, but there aren’t any trans characters to my knowledge.
Everyone is trans unless specifically identified as cis. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
I think it’s the usual projection. Like how a bunch of people swear Gwen Stacy from the Spider-Man movies is trans despite zero evidence. Let people have their head canon and move on.
Wtf, I’m literally trans and love trans head canons. Seriously, which character are we talking about?
i think they’re talking about that one that did the
Yeah there aren’t any … actually trans characters that I can think of … ?
But like here are some reasons that do exist that I can think of:
Multiple potential companion characters have either story arcs or at least important bits to their personal back story that involve them at least discussing if not affirming their gender/sexuality.
Arcade is a gay man, who jokes (?) about how the Legion would just crucify him for being gay.
Veronica has a whole bit where all she wants is to wear a real, proper dress for once, to feel prettier than she is accustomed to, normally always being dressed in either essentially military gear or nondescript clothes meant to make her look unremarkable, as a scout/spy.
She expresses genuine glee, literally squeals with joy if you find her a nice dress.
You got FISTO, who … is a robot, that uh, yeah, you can probably guess.
There’s also a whole storyline that revolves around the sexual trauma of an NCR soldier, you are essentially able to be an impromptu therapist if you have the requisite skills.
You as the player can take perks, that allow you to actually seduce some characters in some situations, and you can pick to be straight, gay/lesbian, or even take both, and be bi.
You can actually kill at least one person this way, specifically as a potential plot point… beyond the perks also just giving you general combat buffs against npcs.
Basically… its … possibly the first, if not at least one of the first 3D roleplaying game that has well written characters, that allows the player to define their own in game gender/sexual orientation as a fairly involved part of how you actually play the game, and it shows you a world with other characters that are basically doing the same.
This was pretty uncommon for a game to do or have, back in 2010.
Closest comparison for a popular game might be Mass Effect 1? But … the romance options in that game are much more ‘tacked on’ and less integral to the rest of the game.
Yeah, I can’t remember any either. I just assumed they were characters I never talked to since the game has so damn many good ones.
I’m just salty that you can’t romance Veronica or Christine or even let the two of them know how the other is doing. I just wanted the both of them to be happy (｡╯︵╰｡)
Now I want to go back and play through Mass Effect again. There are so few games where you can set your friends up with each other. It’s usually “the player shacks up with one and the others remain all alone”.
Ah right!
I thought that Veronica was lesbian, but I couldn’t 100% remember if that was corrrect, so I didn’t include it in my other post.
Now, we are getting into fan canon territory at this point but:
https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/84272
Tale of Two Wastelands (FO3+NV) modmod, allows an alternate ending for Veronica.
~~https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/62173~~
Adds Christine as a fully realized companion/follower.https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/74426
Erp, that one’s deprecated and has been rolled into this modpack, that adds a bunch of DLC characters as full companions.
I’ve not actually used these (aw fuck, here I go playing New Vegas again), but these may scratch your itch.
Also… there are a fair deal of romance overhaul /expansion mods, I don’t know if any of them do anything specifically with Courier + Veronica or Veronica + Christine off the top of my head.
And finally… there are a series of essentially … lets say XXX rated and/or fairly to highly problematic mods for New Vegas on LoversLab.
It… might be possible to configure them to work with these other mods, or they might just do something somewhat analagous, or… they might grant you the ability to put Veronica into a breast milking contraption, while you are busy crafting a cure for the STD you picked up by raw dogging a fiend who did not succesfully ambush you.
Hazard Suit On before you look into any of those mods lol.
Veronica is an explicit lesbian who used to date Christine, you just can’t romance her or any of the companions.
And yes, I know there are mods, but it’s hard for mods to be good enough that they don’t subtract from the base experience. In a game like Skyrim, the bar for integrating content is lower because of how compartmentalized everything is (and the writing, while consistently not horrible, isn’t that great). With New Vegas, there is a lot more to fuck up, so I’m hesitant to add mods for fear that it’ll make the game worse (I’ve certainly experienced such mods, even in Fallout 4 and Skyrim modding scenes). The biggest thing I’ve learned about modding is which mods not to install in the first place, and for New Vegas that’s most of them.