• DevDave@piefed.social
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    7 days ago

    I actually don’t mind “AI” with coding but really this is all secretly just a surprise attack from the “We don’t need to do maintenance and tech-debt isn’t a real thing” crowd.

    For anyone with any professional/commercial experience knows, the auto-slop factory is a dream come true for management as they just keep pulling the techno slot machine lever over and over until it works and then ship it.

    At a bigger picture, everything is or is becoming absolute shit for quality but somehow more expensive. Now software (and hardware) is falling in line and embracing entropy. Wait until that old fogey idiot Linus Torvalds passes on and we’ll get AI slop in Linux the minute after the Dr calls it.

  • riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    i work for a software development company. everyone here is so fucking hot to use llms to write code for them or at least to tell them the best approach to solving issues. i don’t think its different in other companies. probably, if it’s not explicitely stated that no llm is used, it’s used. this is anecdotal, but its what i believe

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      Same here, everyone goes crazy for it and looks at me with suspicion for not using it. And I look at them with rage when I ask them what something does because it looks sus af and they hit me with “idk, the AI wrote it, it said it had a good reason”. Or when my team lead tells me to work on his AI generated library that we ended up replacing with a 150 line class, I have no clue how he managed to generate an entire project around nothing…

      So far the only actually good uses we found for it is as a companion for PRs, because the AI occasionally spots bugs relating to the bloated archaic libraries we use, and for app documentation, because we have 20 years of technical debt and lost knowledge that every human so far has refused to sit through, so an AI summary is better than nothing.

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        It’s funny cause I use AI in like the opposite way, I don’t dare let it change or add code unless it’s really simple and tedious, and even then I watch it like a hawk.

        How I use AI is to teach me about repos and libraries with obscure, hard to understand, or even no documentation. I do ask for help when I hit a roadblock but rather than taking the code it gives me, I dissect it. I ask what each little weird thing does and why it’s there and the AI’s explanations give me enough to look up the right things and verify it’s legit. Then I’ll write my own version with the confidence that I know what each piece means.

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      I can give the same anectdote from my company. I’m one of the few who don’t use LLMs and it’s driving me insane to hear “hey can you help me, I asked AI and it couldn’t really help me”

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        I’d be careful and at least pretend to embrace them, thoes who dont excel with AI are the first to get laid off

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        they could just ask “hey, u got an idea how to have this work well?” but nooooo

        dont even know why. iguess “I asked claude” is becoming a substitute for “I thought about it really hard”.

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      in one of my classes they invited a guy to talk to us about ai use in programming. he basically admitted that he only actually codes when claude is down…

      he called it coding “the old-fashioned way” 🫩

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      Our company is demanding we work 10x faster (because competitors are doing the same) with vibe-coding. The code its making is shit but does work in the moment, which is enough for management. Afaik most of companies either already do this or are about to.

      may be I should retrain as an electrician or a plumber.

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      i believe that most software companies do this rn, yesyes…

      especially code-completion stuff feels less sloppy… but oh well

      i gotta stop yappin or imma get beat up on the lemmy playground >o<

      EDIT: or an addition… for the peeps who care to think <3