Those aren’t exclusionary statements
Trump is a symptom of the wider rot that the establishment Democrats are a part of
Bullshit, he is literally part of the disease.
Bullshit, without the disease he could never, ever have taken office. No functioning Republic would allow it
Just to be clear: symptoms are part of a disease.
Trump is a symptom and also part of the disease. Is there more to the disease than just trump? yes. There are kind of a lot of parts of this disease and they include effectively all of the current Cabinet, House, Senate and Judiciary. Some of those symptoms are democratic and, while I consider many of these democrats to be personally accountable for the issues we face, I also hold that the system is the real problem.
The existing system is the disease and, while we made it over 200 years, I think about the phrase ‘a more perfect union’ in that a perfect union is a goal, but was not a guarantee and bad actors will find loopholes and vulnerabilities.
We tried to get rid of kings; and did for a time, but eventually replaced them with technocrats.
There’s only a handful of them, and a LOT of us. Let’s aim for the next more perfect union and ditch these modern kings.
Yes. The pedodent is supported by the billionaire class and in turn funnels even more taxpayer dollars to then and his own family. The billionaires in turn help manufacture of amplify the conflicts he feeds upon.
But it could be more honest. Dems suck because they’re all bark and part of the problem themselves. Pelosi built a fortune on insider trading, but they keep acting like they’re innocent and “helping” the avg citizen. They sure as hell not with posts like this.
Lets concider the context:
House democrats represent the old wave democrats, whereas Nina Turner is part of the Bernie wave. The old wave is dependent on super PACs for getting elected which means they need to lick as many billionaire boots as possible. The Bernie wave is much more credible in that they rely on grass root donations instead of super PACs.
So when House democrats are saying that Trump is the issue, they are implying that if democrats are governing, then housing prices will improve. But swapping bootlickers with other bootlickers are not going to change anything.
Change require that we give the middle finger to the billionaires.
The biggest tour de force of the century so far is the billionaires who built/bought the social media’s and diverted the attention from the class war (member 2008?) to an ideology war.
They won their bet
The dummies followed and even fought for them
We should probably stop calling them a class and just say billionaires. Calling them a class gives them validation. They are just greedy shitty people
I think i disagree. ‘Bilionaires’ makes it seem seem like a nebulous group of individuals, like
‘oh <insert random billionaire who hadnt been in the news lately for something evil> just happens to have a ton of money, you can’t hold that against them without evaluating their actions as an individual’
The problem is that they are a class, or rather that the class exists as a class and that they are use their power, act as and are catered to, as a class.
If there were 100 individuals around the word who just happened to have assets valuing 1,000,000,000$ or more, even if they owned shitty companies companies and were all assholes, that would be one thing.
Assuming they not associate with each other, conspire together to warp society and governments to their shared wills etc, it would be a far different world.
If they were seen as just rare individuals, governments would not bend to their whims; one billionaire threatens to offshore his buisness unless he gets favorable laws, to ignore taxes etc, the country threatens to nationalism his buisness, or just locks his ass up. I one guy is found to be bribing one or countless politicians, thats a treasonous scandal.
When a couple dozen are making these threats in lockstep, they are holding the country’s economy hostage. And when between them they are bribing all the politicians, that becomes the staus quo.
its when they act as a class that its a real problem.
I like the Epstein class because it’s not just billionaires that are the problem, it’s all the people who break or circumvent the law to enrich themselves or gain power.
The burnings will continue untill we get representation that actually aligns with the will of the people.
To be clear, i won’t be me burning, nor anyone on this site; just the regular Joe who has been pushed too far. We don’t even have to encourage it. The more our leaders don’t listen and ultra rich greed continues the more they will happen. It is the same as: the less it rains (justice) the dryer and more flammable the ground will get. Not a threat, but the nature of humanity and society.
Nothing will improve until the US moves away from the two party system. It’s an inherently flawed system, because it leaves no room for nuance. You either have to vote for the red guys or the blue guys and if both the red guys and the blue guys are crap then you have to vote for the least worst option, which is often hard to identify.
There’s nothing written down that actually requires people to be the representative of one party or another, it’s just how things have worked out.
The US also needs to seriously get a grip on religion in politics, it can be there up to a point but there has to be a limit. In any other western country a politician stating that a war is just and required entirely on the basis of religion alone would rightfully get them sectioned.
No third party has risen up high enough to compete. You are right, but no third option has made its way to the forefront. As for religion and politics, that will be extreamly difficult untill the aforementioned 3rd party comes to being. And even then, the cults of America will make it where life is hard if you are not part of thier groups. Even if we make it illigal to do so: see civil rights movement in the 60’s.
No third option has been allowed to rise. The Rs and Ds have rigged the system to keep out third parties.
I only disagree with this because I know far too well that infighting is more destructive than anything either side could do.
Majority take all voting needs to go, it doesn’t allow nuanced representation either.
Trump is part of the billionaire class having stolen the reins of government that allows him to steal our tax money for his personal use
“Here we go again, same old shit again.”
its unaffordable because both dems and gop collude with each other over things like taxes. this time you cant just blame on trump, hes only the symptom of a larger problem.
During a structure fire, the fire department has to start spraying water somewhere to battle the blaze.
And when fire brigades began they would watch it burn until ypu met their price, which was not fixed.
Less scrupulous fire companies had people set fires to drum up business as well.
Great choice of analogy.
He is a symptom of the disease, and both must be dealt with as such.
Hrmm.
Seeing this again reminds me when I was recently told saying “Democrats” instead of “Democratic Party” is an indicator of having been watching too much right wing media.
House Democrats
The one I see more often is “Democrat Party”. I don’t know if they’re insinuating that the party isn’t actually democratic, but in any case it’s weird and always seemed like another way to manipulate speech and signal who is in the in-group vs. the out-group.
Im not sure thats a real thing.
Possibly a divide and muddle attempt.
As an “independant” non fascist, non billionaire type i use Republicans/Democrats more than i use the full Party names because its less to type.
i find it funny that there are more balanced takes on politics here then in any of the canada political pages on here
The same old history. Some people infiltrate and manipulate the lefties to not vote, until they will lose their power of voting forever.
Nobody needs to infiltrate the left to get them not to vote for the center-right Democratic Party. The elected Democrats do that quite well with no help whatsoever.
“It’s because of your major donors…”
Remembering sept 10th, 2001, hearing about 2.3 trillion missing…
… doubting Trump’s an architect, nor even operator, nor even agent, and continuing to presume merely asset.
Even a flat robin-hood style redistribution of all billionaire wealth gets us each a few grand, utterly dwarfed by how much richer we each and all are with the emancipatory technologies no longer being suppressed and inventors no longer being “disappeared”.
Keep reminding the billionaires even they are better off with prolific provisioning of emancipatory technologies… no longer having to watch their back.
Do you have spaceships yet? And the reassurance that no one is trying to take yours?
Spaceships for everybody.
No cull necessary. Nor any billionaire ploys to pit us against each other. Nor any perpetuation of slavery and oppression via manufactured scarcity, nor the lethal mayhem pantomime of resource wars.
Remember a third of a year before that (^ sept 10th 2001), the disclosure project conference at the press club? And the free energy conferences around the same time. … Before they initiated the cascade of contingency plans for mass distraction to allow the continuation of the PNAC’s hegemonic jingoistic global domination plans (and the plans within that, and within which the PNAC sits) [the fake [but still lethal] terrorist thing, pandemic thing, [burgeoning] nuclear war, [upcoming] alien invasion, with side dishes of climage disaster [weather warfare weapons] throughout and economic/energy collapses peppered around]. We were headed for skipping ahead to the star trek future, and better. We still could sublimate to that. As I recall from those free energy conferences, there had already been over 3000 free energy device patents secreted by the year 2000 according to patent office whistleblower Tom Valone.
We have so much headroom, without the crooks keeping us down.
Imagine if we obsoleted the billionaire producing paradigm, reminded all would be billionaires that even they are richer in ending manufactured scarcity and embracing abundance.
No more billionaires, nor their puppets of hate.
Keep on dreaming while learning to learn, y’all. :)
… or so I aspire manifest.
… so much headroom…
What i find intersting and encouraging is that saying what you just said 20 years ago people would completely dismiss any line of thinking like this. Now, if i said something similar to someone in an elevator they would engage and want to discuss it. Change might actually be possible if minds were more open to the headroom possible.
Trump is the worst president in American history.
“Yeah people with no power, how did you let them be that way?”
