I call bullshit. If you’re competent enough, the process of breaking things might actually let you learn stuff. And if you have a controlled environment, breaking things shouldn’t be an issue.
Move fast, break things.
Move slow, break things.
Don’t move at all, break things.
Maybe I’m just bad at CSS
Move things, breakfast.
And now I’m hungry.
If we break things, we can’t move at all.
We need functioning things in order to move.
It’s the corporate equivalent of “live, laugh, love”
Move fast, break society, and then buy entire governments while still being a dick.
My company says it wants to move fast and break things but they really just want you to move fast and get mad when things break 🫠
Break things… Just not the things that affect me!
“Everybody knows you can have it done well, fast, or cheap. Pick two.”
“No! All three! All the time! Zero drawbacks! All profits and benefits! I am a very good and visionary boss. Have some room temperature Little Caesar’s on the house and make me rich.”
tbf, the breakage isn’t supposed to be internal, but external. Old worn in structures, bureaucratic overhead, etc
Well it didn’t say it wants to “Move fast -> break things -> not get mad”, so I’d say it has already done the things it is saying it wants to, right?
move things, breakfast
Ah, sorry. Stupid race conditions.
Controversial opinion: I think software moving fast isn’t a good thing.
The more versions come out and the more focus there is on new features, the more half baked/abandoned the existing features become and there will be more vulnerabilities.
I probably shouldn’t even be using youtube in the first place, but 5 min ago I found out youtube is now forcing videos with an AI translated voice. While at the same time not having an option to change the audio track or disable the feature.
This feels like a good example of pushing features most people don’t want while not providing a normal way to disable it.
Thank God I use revanced and can spoof the client as IOS TV, this gives you the option do disable that crap.
Firefox (even mobile) has this addon “YT Anti Translate”
It’s pretty bad you have to go this far just to watch a video with the actual voice it was released with…
Thanks for the heads up! I had been disliking every video with AI voice, unaware they might have been uploaded in another language.
I changed the language back to the original and never had an interaction with the ai voice again
Do you not have the original audio track on the sound settings?
Is this on the desktop chrome version, or the app? For me in the app there is no button or any way to change this. Same for the site in Firefox mobile. I was on my phone, so I don’t know about the desktop version.
Firefox desktop.
Just checked with the android version, and I get the original audio track there, with options for ai dubbing
I also have these options in the app, for some reason they where hidden yesterday, I checked multiple times.
I suspect they are doing a lot of A/B testing at the moment
Hey Farva, what’s the name of that design philosophy you like that’s got all that goofy shit and no respect for established norms?
Oh, you mean “move fast and break things”?
I live by “Move things and breakfast.”
A litre of cola.
The boss wanted me to find savings, so I started unplugging servers.
Isn’t that what Elon did when he bought Twitter? Just randomly started unplugging shit?
Yes, all those microservices.
And then shit started breaking.
But did you do it fast?
It’s fine to do that if you’re pre-customer and you’re just dabbling with a new idea. Once you are ready to go public though you need to be stable and secure. The big problem is when people try to apply the same development philosophy between established software and pre-alpha software.
I agree. It heavily depends on the “things” you’re breaking
If it’s prod, that’s bad
If it’s your “fuck-around” branch, go for it
Once you are ready to go public though you need to be stable and secure
Is that really true though? If you have a product people actually want, they’ll use it regardless of bugs
That’s sadly the opinion of a lot of tech companies.
That won’t be true once your competition catches up to you and your bug-riddled product is pissing off customers, pushing them towards your competitors.
How much do you tolerate before switching sides? Think about Windows vs Linux. People don’t switch.
I think move fast and break things is more what you do before you get any real competition, or to get better than the competition in some areas by taking shortcuts in others.
You stop doing this when you’re the big dog. Then you embrace the image of reliability and stability.
At work we have the following quote on the fridge
“A ceramics teacher announced on opening day that he was dividing the class into two groups. All those on the left side of the studio, he said, would be graded solely on the quantity of work they produced, all those on the right solely on its quality. His procedure was simple: on the final day of class he would bring in his bathroom scales and weigh the work of the “quantity” group: fifty pound of pots rated an “A”, forty pounds a “B”, and so on. Those being graded on “quality”, however, needed to produce only one pot — albeit a perfect one — to get an “A”. Well, came grading time and a curious fact emerged: the works of highest quality were all produced by the group being graded for quantity. It seems that while the “quantity” group was busily churning out piles of work – and learning from their mistakes — the “quality” group had sat theorizing about perfection, and in the end had little more to show for their efforts than grandiose theories and a pile of dead clay.”
We are a software development company and my reply to this was basically that pot making hasn’t changed in a long time, it’s basically shaping and firing clay. Software development is comparatively new and has a vastly more dynamic landscape.
Also, the comparison is stupid because we don’t write code, realize it was shit and write a new one. If we did business like that, we wouldn’t be in business.
From my experience of boss looking at people working. Working hard is by a huge margin a lot better than working smart. Trust me I know my shit. Once I even wrote a formula in Excel! /s
That being said with experience you stop using anecdotes, easy pre-made sentences like “premature abstraction/optimisation is the root of all evil!” and you understand that there are no generic solutions and you need, every time, to think hard about the best way to produce something relatively to the context and constraints which, most of them, aren’t technical but organizational and human related.
And also, if you intend to work on a project more than 6 months. Quality is really worth it. The lack of quality works like accumulating mud. After a while, you are stuck, and the next step will require a huge amount of energy.
Give the same assignment to professionals and you will get a bunch of cheap pots from the quantity group, and a single perfect pot from the quality group that is so much better than all the others together.
Ah yes a quote about beginners rapidly gaining beginner gains by practicing really does apply to a group of professionals trying to do their job in a business /s
It’s shocking the amount of morons people trying to do their job have to deal with nowadays. I’m sorry you have a colleague with the critical thinking ability of a punch drunk.
Yeah, not for long, I’m quitting this company as soon as I can.
Why can’t you be a team player? /s
Also, if you break the spirits of upper management, does that count?
…and then add a sticky note below it:
“And then Einstein and Obama and Jobs were there and everybody clapped they were so shocked!”
That’s a really terrible anecdote. Real life quantity group would find ways to do less and less for the same reward. You would end up with fifty pounds of clay with a fist shape indention. Call it a pot and be done.
Yeah, I highly doubt it happened.
Also, the comparison is stupid because we don’t write code, realize it was shit and write a new one.
I mean, you shouldn’t, but it sounds like the quote-poster is asking for exactly that kind of boondoggle of a project.
That quote sounds like an excuse for mass production worship a la brave new world, lol.
It seems like such a little story that it would probably have an origin. It doesn’t seem like the ceramics class, the people who created the story mentioned, ever existed. When asked, they said it was actually a photography class (from the professor Jerry Uelsman). I’d also argue that while that may hold true for learning skills (if it does) it doesn’t necessarily hold true for performing skills. Also I’d say the main reason it could work, is that it got them to actually do something.
I always respond with “Do you want to know if something broke? Then slow down and write tests”
Sorry bruce, these boys get a little crazy when they get that -CoPilot/Claude/Cursor- in them…
Fun fact: some of those syrup bottles were filled with iced tea. Some. Not all.
Obligatory XKCD: https://m.xkcd.com/1428/
