I’ve never understood that kind of service, getting others to shop for you sounds like way more of a hassle than just doing it yourself, is this some kind of american thing because their closest grocery store is three hours away by car or something?
I live in a place that had almost zero public transportation 8 years ago. 8 years ago I developed epilepsy and temporarily lost my driver’s license due to this condition. The closest grocery store is 7 miles away and I live far from family and friends so grocery shopping was nearly impossible at times. Grocery delivery was one of my only ways to get food. It can be useful in more scenarios than you can imagine.
I’ve met delivery app drivers who were literally crying on delivery because they’re having trouble with bills and realizing there getting paid $40 to look around a store for 2 hours in addition to driving and delivering the actual food.
I understand that some people find a reason to use these services. I’ll do my best to avoid them as long as possible.
To be fair, any job will do that to a person. I worked in a whisky bar for 5+ years with decent pay and loved most of it, had a lot of fun. Worked my way from a casual bartender to fill time salaried venue manager. Won international whisky and cocktail awards.
But it started to wear on me having the exact same problems with the owner of the bar every single week, and the exact same conversation with the exact same regulars every single day. The only thing that changed was the people I work with. I started to feel like I barely knew anyone anymore because most of the staff were students or backpackers so they were in and out in 6 months tops. After the last full time bartender left for a different career it felt like I lost my last friend.
One day I rocked up to work to start setting up and the smell of the place hit me as I opened the door and I just broke down crying behind the bar at 28 years old. Handed in my 4 weeks notice that day. The owner didn’t even bother to see me before I left even though he’d only owned the bar for 6 months longer than I’d worked there for him. A year later the place couldn’t find a good replacement and shut down entirely.
Work is just depressing. We weren’t made for this. And late stage capitalism is making things even worse where people aren’t paid enough and aren’t even considered employees anymore.
I’ve met delivery app drivers who were literally crying on delivery because they’re having trouble with bills and realizing there getting paid $40 to look around a store for 2 hours in addition to driving and delivering the actual food.
To be fair, any job will do that to a person
That’s not being fair. I’ve been in several jobs that didn’t.
It is fair. I have had MULTIPLE jobs that had me crying in the car before work nearly every day. Ranging from $7 an hour to more than $50 an hour. Toxic work environments that trigger these intense emotions is not all that rare. I’d say I’m the common denominator in these situations but I am known to be a very pleasant person to work with (I strive for this because it often makes work life 100x easier lmao). I could be delusional but I really don’t think it’s me. Unless being too nice is the reason I get into these situations BUT I DIGRESS. I’m genuinely happy you haven’t experienced this because it’s extremely difficult and destroys your mental health.
Unfortunately I live in a state that is very uh… “Family oriented” or “traditional”. I’m not very welcome in my line of work. 90% of the time I’m the only woman. Lol, I figure I just have to deal with it and prove them wrong.
a friend of mine thoroughly appreciates that he can order groceries for pickup and save the time wandering the store finding things and checking out. I understand that
I’m working 8-5, 6-10 for the next 6 weeks. Sometimes it’s helpful to have basic groceries at your door.
They did used to offer similar services between the 1950s and 1990s - just low-tech. You’d tell the milkman and the grocer what you wanted and it’d be on your doorstep at 7am in the morning.
I order directly from the grocery store and they deliver the groceries. The last thing I want to do after I drive an hour home from work (leave 6:20, return home 5:20) is walk all around a grocery store trying to avoid other shoppers. It’s infinitely easier to order it while I’m working and have it delivered around the time I get home.
I hope ordering directly from them means a store employee is the one picking the items, so they know where stuff is and are being paid hourly, at least.
If you don’t own a car, or can’t drive (at the moment) for some other reason, in a lot of suburbs in the US you literally don’t have a choice.
Where I live in Germany there’s also a lot of supermarket delivery, but they’re generally picked and delivered by people working directly for the supermarket, not random gig economy dudes of the street, so since they have access to the stores inventory system they will automatically know what is available (and since the order app also has that access, you can’t even order anything the supermarket already doesn’t have in inventory at the time of ordering), and either automatically cancel, automatically substitute or send you a notification to pick an option if something is out.
If you don’t own a car, or can’t drive (at the moment) for some other reason, in a lot of suburbs in the US you literally don’t have a choice.
Counter point: these services are relatively new and the majority of people in these suburbs got along fine without exploiting that labor before. There are edge cases that this may benefit (meals on wheels type situations) but I’d argue it’s still borderline immoral to use them.
I prefer my grandma to use them over driving herself. This stuff arrived over the pandemic but its niche is permanent, not everyone using it is doing it out of laziness.
these services are relatively new and the majority of people in these suburbs got along fine without exploiting that labor before.
There are edge cases that this may benefit (meals on wheels type situations) but I’d argue it’s still borderline immoral to use them.
I prefer my grandma to use them over driving herself. This stuff arrived over the pandemic but its niche is permanent, not everyone using it is doing it out of laziness.
I didn’t say everyone was doing it out of laziness.
I said the majority got along fine before.
I said some portions of the pop’n benefit from it now.
It’s still exploitative and I believe borderline immoral. The gig economy is bad for the overall economy.
I am legitimately imagining this person pitching a fit because he got invited to a party and they want to order pizza. Or rather, I imagine them pretending like that’s what they did later in the shower, because nobody actually acts like this in real life.
I am legitimately imagining this person pitching a fit because he got invited to a party and they want to order pizza.
Otherwise you’d have to imagine me as a normal person arguing that the service you use is a net negative on society, I guess. Just chilling here petting my dog and posting PRs at work while bsing on the Internet.
“Oh boy I can strawman someone’s argument online? Guess I better do it at every chance!”
See how silly that sounds?
To the actual point, you’d be much better off spending your time on the root issues instead of attacking a very small minority of the problem. That’s my only point, food/grocery delivery is so low on the list of capitalism exploitation shit.
The actual point is that I can comment on any issue I want, and dismissing that comment because it doesn’t solve what you believe to be an overarching problem is silly.
You don’t need to start from the top or the bottom. You can address any issue you want regardless of its perceived priority.
Lol, no they fucking didn’t. They’d beg people to go shopping for them, meaning they were literally reliant on other people’s schedules to get food. Or like my grandmother, she’d call a cab both ways, wobble herself down the stairs to wait for it, spend two hours slowly working her half blind ass through each aisle to find the shit she needed, and then still be unable to carry more than ten pounds of groceries at a time. This is a miserable ordeal.
Compare to my mother in law, in a similar position, her kids and grandchildren can just ship her food from anywhere with an app. She loves it. The drivers get tipped. We call her and she talks about what she got delivered. But sure, food delivery is “immoral” when you are sufficiently privileged I guess.
Stay-at-home wife has the kids and doesn’t feel like dragging them through the store. Proposes that it’s cheaper to order instacart or shipped because they don’t make impulse purchases. (and for Target I 100% agree)
Ordering for pickup at the store is an option, but they’re shopping for the store, not you, so you’re going to get the older produce and less attention to replacements.
I’ve never understood that kind of service, getting others to shop for you sounds like way more of a hassle than just doing it yourself, is this some kind of american thing because their closest grocery store is three hours away by car or something?
I live in a place that had almost zero public transportation 8 years ago. 8 years ago I developed epilepsy and temporarily lost my driver’s license due to this condition. The closest grocery store is 7 miles away and I live far from family and friends so grocery shopping was nearly impossible at times. Grocery delivery was one of my only ways to get food. It can be useful in more scenarios than you can imagine.
Another scenario is when your whole household has COVID.
Exactlyyy, that is a time I have used it too. I don’t hold a grocery delivery membership but ill definitely use it if I’m sick af and need groceries.
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Covid made it a huge thing, now it’s more convenient than necessary. Or sometimes you’re not sober 🤷
I’ve met delivery app drivers who were literally crying on delivery because they’re having trouble with bills and realizing there getting paid $40 to look around a store for 2 hours in addition to driving and delivering the actual food.
I understand that some people find a reason to use these services. I’ll do my best to avoid them as long as possible.
To be fair, any job will do that to a person. I worked in a whisky bar for 5+ years with decent pay and loved most of it, had a lot of fun. Worked my way from a casual bartender to fill time salaried venue manager. Won international whisky and cocktail awards.
But it started to wear on me having the exact same problems with the owner of the bar every single week, and the exact same conversation with the exact same regulars every single day. The only thing that changed was the people I work with. I started to feel like I barely knew anyone anymore because most of the staff were students or backpackers so they were in and out in 6 months tops. After the last full time bartender left for a different career it felt like I lost my last friend.
One day I rocked up to work to start setting up and the smell of the place hit me as I opened the door and I just broke down crying behind the bar at 28 years old. Handed in my 4 weeks notice that day. The owner didn’t even bother to see me before I left even though he’d only owned the bar for 6 months longer than I’d worked there for him. A year later the place couldn’t find a good replacement and shut down entirely.
Work is just depressing. We weren’t made for this. And late stage capitalism is making things even worse where people aren’t paid enough and aren’t even considered employees anymore.
That’s not being fair. I’ve been in several jobs that didn’t.
It is fair. I have had MULTIPLE jobs that had me crying in the car before work nearly every day. Ranging from $7 an hour to more than $50 an hour. Toxic work environments that trigger these intense emotions is not all that rare. I’d say I’m the common denominator in these situations but I am known to be a very pleasant person to work with (I strive for this because it often makes work life 100x easier lmao). I could be delusional but I really don’t think it’s me. Unless being too nice is the reason I get into these situations BUT I DIGRESS. I’m genuinely happy you haven’t experienced this because it’s extremely difficult and destroys your mental health.
I’m sorry you had multiple jobs that did this to you.
You shouldn’t let that make you feel like it is the norm that any job will do to you.
Unfortunately I live in a state that is very uh… “Family oriented” or “traditional”. I’m not very welcome in my line of work. 90% of the time I’m the only woman. Lol, I figure I just have to deal with it and prove them wrong.
I think they mean that any job can do that to a person, not that it will
Good for you, never worked a job that didn’t absolutely suck in various ways, I guess for now at least I’m making enough to be comfortable.
a friend of mine thoroughly appreciates that he can order groceries for pickup and save the time wandering the store finding things and checking out. I understand that
I appreciate not having to wonder vaguely around the store trying to work out what aisle they think gherkins should belong in.
Turns out they go in “jams and spreads” which makes perfect sense.
I’m working 8-5, 6-10 for the next 6 weeks. Sometimes it’s helpful to have basic groceries at your door.
They did used to offer similar services between the 1950s and 1990s - just low-tech. You’d tell the milkman and the grocer what you wanted and it’d be on your doorstep at 7am in the morning.
I order directly from the grocery store and they deliver the groceries. The last thing I want to do after I drive an hour home from work (leave 6:20, return home 5:20) is walk all around a grocery store trying to avoid other shoppers. It’s infinitely easier to order it while I’m working and have it delivered around the time I get home.
I hope ordering directly from them means a store employee is the one picking the items, so they know where stuff is and are being paid hourly, at least.
If you don’t own a car, or can’t drive (at the moment) for some other reason, in a lot of suburbs in the US you literally don’t have a choice.
Where I live in Germany there’s also a lot of supermarket delivery, but they’re generally picked and delivered by people working directly for the supermarket, not random gig economy dudes of the street, so since they have access to the stores inventory system they will automatically know what is available (and since the order app also has that access, you can’t even order anything the supermarket already doesn’t have in inventory at the time of ordering), and either automatically cancel, automatically substitute or send you a notification to pick an option if something is out.
Yeah, the idea that this is a uniquely American thing is, itself, the kind of thing I’d expect some pick-me American teenager to say.
Counter point: these services are relatively new and the majority of people in these suburbs got along fine without exploiting that labor before. There are edge cases that this may benefit (meals on wheels type situations) but I’d argue it’s still borderline immoral to use them.
I prefer my grandma to use them over driving herself. This stuff arrived over the pandemic but its niche is permanent, not everyone using it is doing it out of laziness.
I didn’t say everyone was doing it out of laziness.
I said the majority got along fine before.
I said some portions of the pop’n benefit from it now.
It’s still exploitative and I believe borderline immoral. The gig economy is bad for the overall economy.
Most grocery places now do their delivery/curbside themselves so you don’t have to patronize a third party app.
Good.
The entire system is exploitative, attacking grocery delivery isn’t going to fix capitalism buddy.
I am legitimately imagining this person pitching a fit because he got invited to a party and they want to order pizza. Or rather, I imagine them pretending like that’s what they did later in the shower, because nobody actually acts like this in real life.
Otherwise you’d have to imagine me as a normal person arguing that the service you use is a net negative on society, I guess. Just chilling here petting my dog and posting PRs at work while bsing on the Internet.
“Oh man, it won’t fix capitalism? Guess I better keep my mouth shut then unless I can fix the entire thing.”
See how silly that sounds?
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“Oh boy I can strawman someone’s argument online? Guess I better do it at every chance!”
See how silly that sounds?
To the actual point, you’d be much better off spending your time on the root issues instead of attacking a very small minority of the problem. That’s my only point, food/grocery delivery is so low on the list of capitalism exploitation shit.
Took you 3 attempts to get that response out, eh?
The actual point is that I can comment on any issue I want, and dismissing that comment because it doesn’t solve what you believe to be an overarching problem is silly.
You don’t need to start from the top or the bottom. You can address any issue you want regardless of its perceived priority.
Trying to silence someone from doing so is silly.
Lol, no they fucking didn’t. They’d beg people to go shopping for them, meaning they were literally reliant on other people’s schedules to get food. Or like my grandmother, she’d call a cab both ways, wobble herself down the stairs to wait for it, spend two hours slowly working her half blind ass through each aisle to find the shit she needed, and then still be unable to carry more than ten pounds of groceries at a time. This is a miserable ordeal.
Compare to my mother in law, in a similar position, her kids and grandchildren can just ship her food from anywhere with an app. She loves it. The drivers get tipped. We call her and she talks about what she got delivered. But sure, food delivery is “immoral” when you are sufficiently privileged I guess.
You sittin’ there arguing that the majority of people were begging others to go shopping for them?
Stay-at-home wife has the kids and doesn’t feel like dragging them through the store. Proposes that it’s cheaper to order instacart or shipped because they don’t make impulse purchases. (and for Target I 100% agree)
Ordering for pickup at the store is an option, but they’re shopping for the store, not you, so you’re going to get the older produce and less attention to replacements.
Personally, I like grocery shopping.
Or you don’t drive. I usually just go to the store as needed and fill a backpack, but if we need more than that we get things delivered.