Which is why it’s a shame to see you fight each other as if that isn’t the case.
I would wholeheartedly recommend reading How To Win Friends And Influence People (or at least this summary). Especially if you’re trying to convince people to vote in the midterms.
But I’d say arguing over who’s got the better opinion is what democracy is about. It’s messy, loud and sometimes violent but I think it’s better than living somewhere where only one opinion is allowed.
Yeah, but it doesn’t have to be messy and loud.
Yep. Discourse. We need to be more engaged, not less. Unconditional support for Democrats gave us Trump.
Lol. Millions of bigots and low-IQ dipshits in the right geographical areas propaganidized and waiting for an amoral low-life to say bigot shit and make ridiculous promises is what gave us Trump.
Democrats being a participant to genocide had nothing to do with it?
Offering ACTUAL populist reforms that could have helped these dipshits wouldn’t have worked?
Why did so many Obama voters switch to Trump, other than they were dipshits to believe either party?
I would love to see a 3rd party candidate win one year, and face house and senate stacked with Ds and Rs, shooting down everything they try to achieve. Then have Rs take the presidency, house and senate in the next cycle and start another major war. Now that’s progressive thinking!
Edit: to actually reply to what you said, the absolute dog shit strategy from the dems gave us Trump. Biden dropping out at the last moment, making Kamala the candidate. Ouch.
Bipartisan support for genocide reinstated Trump, something Biden and Harris both supported. Not to mention all the campaign lies, “I have Bernie’s policies but BETTER…” from twenty identical ratfuckers.
You identified the problem and you don’t even realize it.
Hey, your image even got it right! If Ds were in power, the crank would not turn to the right. Believe it or not, this is the best you can get for the US.
We deserve better, and it can be achieved
Never once has anyone shown me a credible path there. Just please vote D while waiting for that miracle to happen, we need Trump out.
Vote with your heart in the primaries, vote with your head in the general. Of course you should vote Democrat. I’m just saying there are also things you can do to improve the quality of Democrats you get.
Tall order for Americans.
It was a successful prosecutor versus a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, insurrectionist, and probable pedophile with one failed presidency already under his belt and a significant number of Americans still managed to not vote or turn their vote to ash with a 3rd party candidate, including a shit ton of users on this very platform who still think they were very smart for doing so.
Ah, ok you’re one of the reasonable ones. For some reason I’ve been butting heads against staunch anti-Ds today and it grinds you. They refuse to see that their position is playing in the hands of the R cronies.
But yes, what Bernie almost did was amazing. Very much hoping to see something similar happen again.
I will not vote for a pro genocide candidate. You want to know what’s too far? That’s it. I won’t put myself OR YOU over kids in Gaza. No apologies.
We deserve neither prosperity or security.
That is what you want? Holy cow.
For things to stop actively getting worse? Yes. That is what I want.
Worse for who, you or kids in Gaza?
I give zero fucks about one of these.
To be clear, I will always prioritize my own country and the people in it.
To be even more clear, the rapist we got is WAY worse for Gaza than ANY Dem candidate would have been.
So every dipshit that chose to stay home or vote for a candidate that couldn’t win literally condoned the WORST possible scenario for the kids in Gaza.
I don’t get this argument. How are the kids in Gaza doing any better since Harris lost?
Both.
Edit: though I gotta say, my life has not gotten significantly worse since the reelection of trump, so. Thank you for your concern.
if only we could get rid of the right wing party that postures as left wing party and prevents all movement to the left
Maybe if you keep crying that will magically happen.
Want is different from “can have”. One tick to the right in that picture here means 0.5 degrees of extra warming. 3 ticks means another catastrophic war. So yeah, let’s just stop it from moving rather than attack the only thing that can stop it.
There was war happening under Biden. There was genocide happening under Biden.
This might shock you, but Biden wasn’t president of Earth. And he actually brought our troops home from the Middle East until The Rapist sent them back. He also openly expressed disapproval of Israel’s actions, floated arms shipment cancellations, and tried to broker a peace deal.
Did he do enough? Nah. But you seem to have some imaginary concept of Joe Biden.
Disingenuous, they clearly state they believe it is the best we can hope to achieve, not that it is what they want. I don’t think they’re correct, but this is a bad faith reading. Avoid this in the future for stronger left cohesion.
No, that is not how it works. If I want a filthy street to be clean, then not adding more trash is not a solution. You have to actually remove existing trash. Voting the same party again that has failed people now and in the past is simply not the solution. If you vote shit instead of garbage because shit is at least compositing… the street stays filthy.
It is in a federal election since no 3rd party can win a federal election. Literally.
If you want to vote for something other than Dems or Repubs in local elections, even though no 3rd party is putting forth any effort to be viable in that arena either, then go for it and I’ll be cheering for you. If you want to pull that shit in a federal election. Well, time to return to school and receive a better education.
The most popular 3rd party candidate in the 2024 election received 0.5% of the total votes cast.
What I’m saying is, it was clear the other commenter did not want a filthy street. Their methods may have been ineffective at achieving that, but claiming they wanted it is incorrect.
This is why no one thinks you’re convincing. Because if you fundamentally believe this is the best we got, you have nothing offer, and the fact that you can’t see that means our only options are to fight you and ignore you, and when you insist on spreading your position on social media, you must be fought
Yeah, surely keep on fighting. But vote D in the mean time. Rs need to be kept away from power, and not voting D is enabling Rs.
Voting in Ds also enables Rs, and we have no shortage of examples.
I mean, are you under some sort of uninformed impression that any 3rd party can win a federal election?
The most popular 3rd party candidate in 2024 received 0.5% of the total votes cast. To be clear, that’s a really, really, really small percentage and proves that in no way can a 3rd party win a federal election.
So your country and, therefore, your life, will be controlled by Democrats or Republicans. Now, take a real good look around you and figure out which one you prefer.
Ok, here we go again…