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Screenshot of a tweet by @feralhousepuppy: hey so you’ve been calling me “bro”, “man”, and “dude” a lot and it’s really invalidating to my masculinity cause those are all gender neutral things you call trans women :/

  • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    13·
    2 days ago

    I’m sorry but I HATE folks. I’m down with virtually all other gender neutral terms, but I psychologically can’t uncouple ‘folks’ from pseudo-homespun charm put on by people who are sleazebags for various reasons. Anything but folks, I beg (general) you

    • SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      16·
      2 days ago

      I use folks all the time!

      …but i’m also a server at waffle house, so I guess I am using southern culture and folksy charm to sell you waffles and coffee. It’s a soulless existence, I know, but at least I have my cold, hard cash tips to keep me warm at night.

      • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        2 days ago

        Well no, it doesn’t, because it’s a different word. Plenty of words have similar meanings or origins while having very different connotations from each other. See for example the whole [saxon? norman? whatever] vs french root thing in english, where words with identical meanings but different root languages came to have different connotations (worker vs laborer) or even different meanings (cow vs beef).

          • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
            11·
            12 hours ago

            Just that you shouldn’t expect two words that have similar meanings to be treated the same way, because they often have different connotations and usages.

              • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
                11·
                9 hours ago

                Do you know what a connotation is? Frankly this is a bit annoying and I’m going to be blunt: it’s exceedingly obvious that it’s a difference in connotation (as I’ve said three times now) rather than in definition*. The difference is the context of how the words are used and the associations they have.

                I psychologically can’t uncouple ‘folks’ from pseudo-homespun charm put on by people who are sleazebags for various reasons

                That is the difference.

                * There are definitional differences too but it doesn’t really matter.

                  • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    1·
                    9 hours ago

                    OP stated the difference clearly. I just quoted to you exactly where they said the difference. The definition is essentially the same but they are used and associated in different ways. I do not understand how you are confused or what further explanation you need here.

        • Fushuan [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          21·
          2 days ago

          Another example: cavalier vs caballero. Cavalier comes from the French word for knight, and that’s caballero in Spanish, but the meaning is completely different. One is arrogant, one is noble (the good kind, yeah I do get how they are related and where and why the meanings shifted).

    • Sanctus@anarchist.nexusEnglish
      1·
      2 days ago

      I just hear the word in Davey’s voice from Adventure Time and it has completely taken the term over. I can’t even say folks without impersonating Davey anymore.

    • fleebleneeble@reddthat.comEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      I only use it to refer to my “parents” cuz saying parents otherwise makes me feel like I’m in grade school again or some shit. Otherwise to refer to others as folks feels weird to me.