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AAA Games: We’ve created a massive open world 500x larger than our previous game with a grand total of two (2) sidequests that have been copy-pasted all over the map. That way, you have many different ways to climb a tower to find where to shoot stealth mechanics base building zombies buy the tarnished pass today!
Steam Indie Games: We had the great idea of taking Sekiro’s combat system and making into a rhythm game! We then decided to make it a roguelike deckbuilder so we wouldn’t have to design a progression system or level layouts and the player can just reset runs until the game becomes good via monkeys and typewriters.
Itch.io Games: I made a 2 hour long game about the trauma of growing up as a closeted trans girl presented via metaphor of being a stowaway on a 25th century cargo ship delivering goods between Hong Kong and The Greater Empire of Americana. It’s also a roguelike deckbuilder.
If anyone wants a good itch.io game recommendation that isn’t a deck builder or rogue-lite/like, “Voices of the Void” is a really good one :p
oh that looks pretty cool, thank u for the rec! :3
The EU: Hold my beer…
Mobile games: we vibe coded another generic candy crush clone where you have no objective and just touch stuff to make colorful flashy animations and see ads between each level
And we use ads that don’t even feature our games gameplay.
Don’t forget the gambling for big titty anime girls
Both the Steam Indie and the Itch.io games are valid ways! Also, procedural generation does NOT have to be bland. Dead Cells - my preferred Metroidvania (will stay that way probably until the day i die), and Hades I/II are the best examples how random generation can generate completely acceptable and enjoyable gameplay experiences. Give the generator enough pieces to work with and make sure they fit together regardless of how you mix&match them, and you got a pretty good thing going. Add tight controls and clear visuals for anything gameplay-relevant, make sure random bullshit doesn’t punish too harshly, and give the player control about how hard the game gets, and you probably have something that will pay the bills.
Give the generator enough pieces to work with and make sure they fit together regardless of how you mix&match them
That’s pretty basic procgen, idk if I would describe it as particularly good. It’s fine, but it doesn’t usually go beyond fine-- high floor, low ceiling.
Eh, Hades level generation isn’t anything special, just a few hand-crafted pieces stitched together with random enemy and hazard spawns. It works well for the type of game that it is, but in general the “room-lite” approach to procedural generation (where it’s largely a bunch of completely separate combat encounters in standalone rooms is not super interesting to me.
This is why Dead Cells and Spelunky’s procedural generation is much more interesting. Yes, there are hand-crafted pieces, but the way that they sometimes come together create very unique and cool situations that room-lites never achieve.
I love Noita for this reason. Every pixel is simulated and interacts/reacts to each other so as well so as well as the map being procedurally generated each run, you can interact and change it all as you progress. You can do some really wacky results with your wands if you build up your spells with good combinations, and there’s a somewhat hidden deep depth of alchemy to the game so mixing different liquids make different things/effects. Or get so high eating stuff you probably shouldn’t and somehow end up altering reality, changing one random liquid type to another for the rest of the run. You really needed water? Good luck, all water is now honey
Can easily have a run where you’re just exploding everything, and setting fire to every pixel that’s flammable, go a full acid build and dissolve everything, or just bathe and heal yourself in the blood of every enemy that you kill and go wild
Sorry, I realise I was talking about just the procedural generation of the game but ended up rambling into fanning over the game instead lol
I bought this game, I didn’t know it was this deep. I’m gonna play it again!
The focus of Dead Cells and Hades is in different directions: while Dead Cells lives from generating well designed combat areas, Hades lives from using procedural generation to combine story elements. Both are an example of how you can fit pieces together without making stuff linear.
Definitely agree! It works well for the game type, I just really enjoy procedural generation for more than just generating a room for combat. Not saying that those games are worse, just less interesting in terms of procedural generation.
Dead Cells gang 4 lyfe
I spent thousands of hours on that game, and i know i haven’t seen everything yet (mostly because my reaction times suck nowadays - if it had come out a decade sooner, i would have 100%ed it, but that’s not the fault of the game). I still come back to it every few months.
I’m sure there’s some way for you to 100% this game. Have you tried peptides, stemcel therapy, human growth hormone, blood doping, F1 cognitive reflex exercises or whatever else modern science can provide?
Same!
I miss the era of pixel art platformers with a cliff face for a difficulty progression curve (also 50-50 chance of being a roguelike)
Oh also another current theme of: Vampire Survivors, but with a vaguely different theme
Even Vampire Survivors carcinogenesis’d toward deckbuilder…
Do you have any platformers you go back to regularly?
Celeste is a good newer one
Not the original commenter, but the Gunvolt/Luminous Avenger Ix games are ones I keep going back to. Very Mega-Man inspired with some lite stats and leveling. I especially enjoyed the first Luminous Avenger Ix game, bullet dashing into as many enemies as possible while playing the floor is lava is a lot of fun.
It’s roguelike deckbuilders all the way down (and I wouldn’t have it any other way)
I haven’t enjoyed many. The only fun one I’ve found was created by my good pal, Kurt cocaine. (They changed their name)
Roguelike bullet hell, where the deck builder lies between levels, so you can build your weapons
I enjoyed one and that was it. Over ‘em.
Thanks for the recommendation this looks fire ❤️
I don’t want a deck, give me boi head bashing till I get a god run
i can’t ever find any good rougelike deckbuilders on itch :(
Who said anything about “good”?
Oh my god









