Not a big fan of O’Keefe, but I like this!

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    I can’t wait to see the pages of redactions. It’s going to be a stack of like 20 pages with three or four enemies of Trump’s on it. The rest are all redacted.

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    Isn’t this something that even most Republicans suspected this corrupted government would do?

    All normal Americans suspected this because, well, duh. And Republicans that suspected the government under Taco would do this because that’s their idea of “justice”, and they expect him and his staff to deliver it.

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      It won’t stop them from bleating, “See?! That’s why the left never released them - because they’re the only ones on it!” when they finally come.

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          When MTG is the voice of reason in that party recently. You know something is wrong.

          She legitimately the only person I can believe wasn’t connected to Epstein. And she’s too stupid to realize that a real investigation leads to Trump and her in denial doing a 180.

          I’m watching her with popcorn in hand.

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            She’s only doing it to keep her seat. Should still be replaced. While she’s weirdly actually doing her doing her actual job and listening to her constituents, it’s just a stop-gap until she’s reelected, then she’ll go back to shouting “Jewish space lasers” or whatever the hell and pandering to whatever Republican president is in office.

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      Republicans: “SEE! BILL CLINTON IS THE ONLY NAME ON THE LIST!!!”

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    Hopefully they leave in all the black redactions and not just delete them.

    That way we can see how many republicans were redacted.

    However I fear they’re also fabricating and just adding as many enemies they need to it for a large night of long knives. Like their version of Project Insight.

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    They won’t release it.

    Because if they release a list with only Dem names on it, surely there will be a former Biden Admin official with a copy of the full unredacted list, and they could just release that as retaliation.

    Neither party would want to release it, because its M.A.D. at this point.

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      If there IS a hypothetical former Biden official with the full unredacted documents who doesn’t have the courage to leak them, this hypothetical person needs to be hung from the nearest hypothetical tree.

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          Yeah, sure would be nice if they actually had political beliefs or principles they weren’t willing to discard when it made their garbage worldview inconvenient.

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      It’s almost like the Republicans are using the Epstein files as a way to distract everyone from them taking cudgel to the foundation of democracy and the Democrats are playing right into it. What if the files were released today, would any representative or senator really see any consequences? Would any of them sit before a judge? Will it be something else for them to yell at each other instead of addressing the real elephant in the room, the governments abject failure at governing. Cause you know, we could just believe the survivors. I trust them over anything the government releases at this point.

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        The genocide plus child rape will surely be the catalyst we need to stop voting for representatives who support FPTP.

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      Do it now and no one gets held accountable.

      Do it after republicans start prosecution of the Dems and it becomes much harder to bury the whole thing.

      Plus, it gets rid of a shit ton of problematic Dems. If they were raping kids with Epstein, they’re also doing way worse shit to prevent that from coming out.

      That was the whole point, accumulate dirt, then blackmail.

      In 2026 only one party will be able to say zero incumbents were named in the Epstein list, and every republican incumbent has to defend not holding their peers accountable, or even personally being on the list themselves.

      trump trying to use corrupt Dems as sacrificial lambs is going to bite him in the ass

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        Assuming that is that they merely remove themselves from the list and leave whatever dems are on in. If theyre willing to edit the thing to remove themselves however, can they be trusted to not add people they particularly dont like, or remove any dems on the list that they are concerned might out the rest of the list if prosecuted?

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        trump trying to use corrupt Dems as sacrificial lambs is going to bite him in the ass

        Why would it when nothing else has yet?

        This is the post-truth era, the only thing that sticks is spin.

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          Because people like you pre-excuse nothing happening by saying shit like this. Republicans see this narrative continuing and know they can ignore it without consequences

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        Why would they be held accountable? Republicans will just claim the names are a targeted attack as a last ditch effort by the Dems fabricated and paid for or some shit and then point to their own doctored documents as proof.

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          Because if Dems can legitimately clear the very low bar of “no one here was in the Epstein list” we’re likely to get enough seats that it literally doesn’t matter what Republicans claim.

          1/3 of the country doesn’t vote, this would get a significant amount more to vote.

          Couple that with the DNC changes, primarily reinvesting in state parties…

          And this is the most optimistic I’ve ever been about America long term.

          But the next 1-3 years are going to be pretty close to the worst.

          Gotta find the silver linings.

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            Idk man, dollars to donuts Clinton is on it. You say it’s a low bar, but idk how much faith I’d put in our rich

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              Idk man, dollars to donuts Clinton is on it.

              If be shocked if he wasn’t…

              That’s my point, the people legitimately on it that are prosecuted because trump doesn’t like them, are still being prosecuted and removed not just from the party but the all of society if they’re jailed.

              You’re looking it as the politicians are the party. I’m talking about it like the voters are the party. And we’re better off without the child rapists hanging around us making ng us look bad.

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                If be shocked if he wasn’t…

                how soon we forget Slick Willie was getting BJs in the oval office and he was BFF with Donald while snorkeling at Epstein island.

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      AOC and MTG, side by side, reading from the same document. Just AOC alone would let conservatives shrug off every consequential name.

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    Dude they are never releasing the full files. This is all just a fucking tease and while they’re busy pretending to be bringing the hammer of justice down all the pedophiles they just chose to protect (once again) are casually helping set up and cement the authoritarian regime in cities across America.

    Like when we reach the point that there is military patrolling every major city, elections are cancelled indefinitely for our own good, and they feel safe enough to just admit they’re not releasing anything else, what do we even do?

    This is like somebody who you caught robbing you, then giving you some of your stuff back to get you to shut up and not draw so much attention. Then reassuring you that you’ll get the rest back soon, they just didn’t feel comfortable giving it all back to you yet? What possible reason would you have to trust or believe that they’ll do anything once the heat and focus has died down enough?

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      Dude they are never releasing the full files

      whilst i think every reasonable person wants everyone on a hypothetical epstein list (only saying hypothetical because we don’t honestly know what’s actually there to be released: doubtful it’s as simple as a list) to be brought to justice, the point at this stage is just to speak their language: MAGA can’t be trusted, and it seems the only way they realise that is with things like this… constantly point out, on common ground, that this is all hypocritical lying bullshit

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          The core, ie the qanon cult, absolutely care. Their only reason for engaging in politics in the first place is to fight the demonic pedophile ring infesting the government. They just didn’t realize they were voting for its leader.

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          there’s definitely some of them that do… at the very least, there’s been a bunch of the MAGA influencers that have been pissy about it… i think that’s a useful thing to push on

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      Yeah, I honestly don’t understand what all the fuss is about.

      The Trump admin isn’t going to release a trove of documents detailing Trump’s escapades.

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    Good! The LAST thing we Would want is for Republican Child Rapists to be CAUGHT! PROTECT THE REPUBLICAN CHILD RAPISTS!

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      Disagree. The list will be shorter, but it’s not necessarily a short list. Being a Democrat doesn’t stop someone from being a PoS.

      A few years ago someone posted a list of reported sex crimes by politically affiliated people. It was about 60/40 Republicans.

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      Nah, they’ll just put in the names of everyone they don’t like. The only name I’d be certain was already there is Bill Clinton’s.

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    My concern is that neither side has released a list because its going to be insanely ugly. Like the most powerful people in the US…and the fallout is going to be anarchy.

    I have to believe that Biden’s team looked at what the fallout would look like, and their reaction was “Oh…my…god. What they did was fuckjng horrific, but the country will literally implode if we release this.”

    I’m all for releasing it, we need a bit of a hard reset/wake up call.

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      The country won’t explode, it will destroy the pedophiles legacy and future though, which is death to them. Nearly everything biden does is do gaslight people into thinking he was a great person.

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      people need to treat not releasing the info as though the files have the worst possible contents

      hard reset is definitely needed

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      Well what you’re deciding to believe about that is just wrong. Members of the Biden administration did assist (D) senator Wyden’s investigation into wire transfers of billions of dollars to Epstein, which is still ongoing and he has published a list of dozens of names that he found records of financial involvement with Epstein. That investigation which Biden staff cooperated with is being blocked by Trump’s staff currently.

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      Releasing the list is damage control.

      The Epstein list is really just a focusing lens of much greater rage at billionaires and the elites that cover for them. They either throw some meat to satiate the wolves at their door or the wolves will want to come for them all. Americans are too American to admit their rage is all really about wealth inequality.

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    An easy solution is to not redact anything.

    This is ONLY a problem if the guilty are in charge.

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      Technically there are still anonymous victims in the documents, but yes. You can usually tell from context that the only redacted names are victims if this is done right.

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    Still better than nothing.

    Purge them out of the Dem party now, and get better options in. Then they can hold the ones that were protected accountable.

    Getting them out of the Dem party now just helps our chances in the next elections

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        I think they meant, “purge every Epstein list pedo out from the Democratic party.”

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          Yes, thats what they did mean, but also the other guy is right too. Lets purge republicans out of the democratic party.

          I keep saying we don’t have a left anymore. We have a right, and a far right. But all I get in response is people saying “BoTh SiDeS!!!”

          Yes. Both sides are trying to fuck you. Why is that so hard to accept when everybody is being fucked?

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        What I understood from the comment you replied to is that, if only Democrats appear in the Epstein Files, then each Democrat that appears will be purged from the Democratic Party. This will open spaces for better people to fill.

        On the other hand, if Republicans are redacted from the Epstein Files, they will not have that pressure to leave their roles.

        Of course, I could be wrong and the comment could’ve meant something different.