Wtf, this is mob attacks burning down their capital and protestors dieing in the streets.
When that society is better, let us know. Its just arson and murder now
You can make the meme for most countries in the west. The past couple days have been us celebrating the latest Banksy performative protest as if that’s done anything more than be more art in the ocean of art to be snooty about socially and continue on with the ever weak art based protest. 30 years of performative art centric leftist culture and 30 years of neoliberalism shifting further and further to the right
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What happened in Nepal? Ive not been in lemmy, or news sites in almost a month. Im very out of the loop on this one.
I love Lemmy and I enjoy that it’s less of a constant news+politics festival than Reddit, but the downside of that is that you won’t get exposure to some pretty important events just by browsing the top posts. You have to go to a news comm, can’t rely on the community to put the most important news at the top. Many days there have been huge news events and the top Lemmy posts are all comics and memes - nothing wrong with that! The community can be whatever it wants. But as a user , especially if you’re coming from Reddit, you’ve gotta know to supplement your news with other sources (which really you should be doing anyways).
Thanks! All caught up now. Go Nepal citizens!
At this point I’m pretty sure at least half the people cirtisizing lack of violence in America are feds trying to get people to spill incriminating evidence. You look stupid complaining online about not hearing about shit you can’t say online. No one’s booting up an onion router to brag to some shithead on lemmy about how they returned a tear gas canister to the cops.
There’s a bunch of keyboard warriors demanding OTHERS take action. And I wish there was a mass tagging tool so we can root out these provocateurs.
Provocateurs is almost too generous a term for them, it’s like opsec 101 not to post shit like that on extremely public forums no matter how anonymized they claim to be. It’s basically like when your IT department secretly sends sketchy emails to test if you’re dumb enough to click it.
Lemmy is so USA centric they did not notice the people sponsoring Nepal’s protests are the exactly the same people in charge of USA right now.
The ban on USA big tech industry is a sovereignty statement, and every country should do that, USA is literally stealing data from other countries, since data is the new gold, the name of the game is digital colonialism, you should read more about that if you have more than two brain cells
Source?
Second part - Every country that currently has the capability is “stealing” data. I’m not deflecting from the US’s actions, but let’s do the math here and pick something that everyone isn’t in the same glass house together.
Yeah, sure let’s keep pretending that there’s not only few countries in the world where the US CAN NOT steal data because they LOST a war
As I said Lemmy is very US centric, you guys are not able to look at any thing else other than your own aases
bullshit
US would never do that, right? LMAO
trump didn’t give a blanket “y’all either obey me or you’re out” to all social media, blocking all except tiktok, no wonder 'muricans are still sleeping
Nepal: landlocked country, 31 million people, 147 thousand sq KMS. United States: extends across a continent, 340 million people, 9.8 million sq kms
Just some reference points, draw your own conclusions
The contiguous US is only around 7 million in land area minus 1.5 for Alaska. 5.5m with more than 10 times the people. I’m drawing conclusions.
And more than 10 times the land area, right? About 67 times larger actually
How about this regions size and population compared to Nepal
Funny, I was thinking that would make a good comparison. Another interesting note, that area is separated from the rest of the continental US by the Appalachian mountains. Things to consider about why Americans aren’t rioting hard enough.
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Careful, every American on Lemmy has about 6 or 7 thought-stopping cliches ready to defend their cowardly fucking inaction.
Inaction like this? (warning - video is bloody) https://mastodon.social/@Ulfh3dnar/115181548207581457
The fact that you’re posting this means you’re not dead or in prison, which thought-stopping cliche will you use to explain your cowardly inaction?
Or maybe I don’t live in a shithole country?
You guys’ America-centric assumptions are really more in line with what we tend to see from MAGA chuds. Guess I shouldn’t be surprised that you aren’t fighting back too hard.
complains about America-centric assumptions
only posts about America
I guess I should quit my job and condemn my family to destitution because some guy on Lemmy called me a pussy for not fighting the government. Rofl.
Right, that’s what the rest of the world is waiting on Americans to do: quit their job.
“Do nothing” is so ingrained in the American psyche that when pushed to do something the only thing they can think of is doing even less.
No. I’m not quitting my job. That’s the dumbest fucking thing anyone could suggest. Grow up.
If there’s a general strike, I’ll participate. Quitting my job and condemning my family to starve? Fuck outta here with that childish nonsense.
No one actually suggested you quit your job. YOU’RE the one that said that and I was pointing out the absurdity that that is the first and only place you go. Are you lost?
Put a /s on it then, moron.
It sure is easy to criticize people for inaction when you’re at no risk yourself.
Inaction isn’t going to keep you safe.
Neither is poorly planned action.
I sure hope that means you are involved in planning actions instead of using it as an excuse to do nothing.
I am, and frankly I find the default assumption that the people criticizing ineffective action aren’t engaged in effective action to be extremely condescending.
The people the rest of the world has been warning for decades that this very situation would occur if you kept doing what you were doing? The people who got belligerent and shitty when we pointed out the path they were on? Easy to criticize them? Yeah, it very much is.
The people who got belligerent and shitty when we pointed out the path they were on? Easy to criticize them? Yeah, it very much is.
A bunch of us have had to live right next door to these people the whole time. Sometimes it’s so ridiculous that I think the simulation overseers are experimenting with the opposite of the simulated utopia from The Matrix that failed. Is there a level of absurdity that will get us to reject the simulation en masse?
This is Lemmy, the vast majority of Americans here lean hard left. We knew. What exactly were we supposed to do? Die immediately in an immature revolution? Magically devise the perfect argument to overcome a century of anti-left propaganda?
This reminds me of a recurrent thing in life: someone competes following a set of rules, and the other player doesn’t follow them. Of course that gives them an advantage.
There are two logical options to make the game fair again:
1)finding a way to make the second player follow the original rules
2)accepting the new game with its changed rules
No, you’re right, you’ve done plenty. You should feel very pleased with your effort. You deserve a rest, even. Have yourself a nap and I promise nobody will wake you up to tell you how goofy it is that you just called Americans on Lemmy “hard left” 😅
criticizes what other people are doing
does nothing
WHY ARENT YOU GUYS DOING ANYTHING BUT POSTING ON THE INTERNET? does nothing but post on the internet
Or maybe I don’t live in a shithole country?
lmao yeah right chud. They’re all shitholes especially yours.
As long as you can point to a country you believe is doing worse there is no reason to want yours to do better. You are just mainlining that propaganda aren’t you?
“America is the greatest country on earth!”*
*Not due to actually being great in any way, just due to the fact that we believe other countries are at least slightly worse, and that’s good enough for me!
Probably don’t want to die tbh
Murican here. I just lack a spine like the rest of my countrymen. No sense making excuses.
You probably also have access to food and basic infrastructure and services. That gives you incentive not to risk your life violently overthrowing the government.
Give it some time.
I don’t respect the position, but I appreciate that you’ve got more integrity than just about everyone else I get responses from.
Do you expect people who are living paycheck to paycheck to give up their lives to die, be homeless or permanently disabled?
Do you imagine people in Nepal to have big savings accounts and investments in NVidia?
Truth is - if you are not bothered enough by the situation to risk your confort and way of life, then you are ok with the situation and accept it.
What a wild take.
Im so glad most of this type of discourse is contained to a platform like Lemmy. This place is basically 4chan for armchair leftists.
You’re a “good german”, is all.
Thanks for proving my point lmao. Im a “good german” because id rather not suffer irreparable damage to my body and psyche.
Jesus christ. The only people who talk like this are highly privileged idiots.
Yeah, this place shockingly has less nuance than Reddit did. Maybe not shockingly, since it seems to cater to a very specific group of people.
100%. Anyone pretending to disagree with this is just trying to assuage their guilt for being huge cowards.
Honestly? People who are living paycheck to paycheck have MORE reasons to risk everything and FAR fewer excuses for allowing the status quo to persist. Who the fuck do you think should be burning shit down if not the people most victimized by it?
people SHOULD go out and die. not me tho. other people.
Right, let me book a flight to another country whose citizens can’t be bothered to fight back on their own to show them how it’s done.
sure just advocate for violence that you wouldnt commit yourself.
Didn’t say I wouldn’t. Just said I’m not going to fly to other countries to do it.
What should I do?
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Reddit-ass forum moderation
Criticize them to the core, and they write a robot replier just for you.
FYI, this user is a rage bait troll. everything they say is intended to anger you. ignore them completely.
Their post history doesn’t reflect that from the two pages I skimmed.
In fact the only thing bad I saw was you harassing them and mods deleting your posts.
We tried in 2020, libs quickly coopted the movement by pretending to be at the front of it and that we had less radical demands, defused it by pretending to agree to those demands, and then supported republicans in opposing any of the demands, with Biden telling states to divert covid funds to police. Before I left, people seemed too tired and beaten down to really try again.
Set fire to the Capitol. Got it
Yeah, cuz Nepal is known for it’s military.
Yeah, it’s not like your country has based its entire identity for two centuries on its spirit of violently resisting tyranny against great odds
That’s not the countries identity, that’s a propaganda line.
This person is obviously not immune to propaganda.
it’s not like your country has based its entire identity for two centuries on its spirit of violently resisting tyranny against great odds
Yeah they’ve haven’t. Maybe you’re drinking the koolaid. But only a fool would believe this.
Resisting foreign tyranny, specifically. The US certainly doesn’t have that identity anymore.
This line is so perfect it needs to be a meme.
People really love criticizing the US and fair enough, but man it’s tiring seeing people lambasting the US for not violently resisting when we actively are and it’s just being suppressed by the media. Without cooperation from the head of the executive branch we can’t storm congress, but we’re doing a whole fuckload despite that…
Without cooperation from the head of the executive branch
We cannot protest the government without support from the government.
when we actively are
Examples?
Protests against the second Trump administration
Gaza war protests in the United States
2025 United States protests against mass deportation
United States abortion protests (2022–present)
United States racial unrest (2020–2023)
These are just the protests. Note that all these links list multiple, recent protests, which actually get media attention on things.
If you want the stuff that the media doesn’t tend to cover as well, you have to look hard (and maybe deal with a paywall and local reporting and realizing that what makes the news isn’t all that’s happening): ICE raid in Rochester stymied as 2 workers evade arrest, 200 residents protest
Well since local media aren’t covering them and many foreign ones step in line to not upset lord trump, the only way to get examples is to attend them.
The cities he sent military to were the cities that had largest protests.
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Protests? So no, not violently resisting.
So, guaranteed death? USA will not use billy clubs and shields to knock down protesters. They will SHOOT and kill.
I’m not dying because we have 80 million retarded cunts here.
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People are already DYING, what bodycount can your conscience hold?
Oh and did you miss all the students who were shot and killed in Nepal? You can find videos of them bleeding out in the streets with people desperately trying to save them, kids dying in school uniforms as they protest, but sure billy clubs.
Dude, there’s no way you can argue your way into making someone feel bad for not wanting to risk their life in a violent resistance against their own government.
That’s a choice every person have to make for themselves. You don’t know them. You don’t know their situation.
You seriously need to take a step back and sit down.
Are you just going for a shock reaction, or are you seriously trying to neg other people into dying for you?
How many American protesters have been killed since January 2025?
Give me your source. Otherwise, STFU.
When you say violently resisting, what specifically do you mean?
Setting things in fire, erecting barricades, actively fighting authorities and creating chaos, making it impossible to ignore. For examples see the Maiden revolution in Ukraine, Hong Kong protests a few years ago, or any Tuesday afternoon in France.
Orange revolution and Euromaidan in Ukraine were peaceful protests the government responded violently to them which energized more people.
In Poland Solidarity also was peaceful and the one that created violence was the government.
Historically peaceful protests like the above are more effective, because more people are willing to join them.
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Please give examples
It’s a little difficult to provide specific novel examples without doxxing myself (the whole “suppression by the media” thing), but heck there’s plenty of examples even just from what’s in the news media.
You say “plenty” but the LA June protests were for the most part the exception rather than the rule. Can we get something recent and/or from outside LA?
Sure, but man, it’s kinda exhausting having a bunch of people jump on “sources please” when the initial comment was about how the lack of easily available reporting on this is a real problem.
I mean, even they’re not covered by most media someone somewhere has to be talking about them. At the very least leftwing media should be frothing at the mouth to cover these things. I guess your link ticks the “outside LA” box so this isn’t/wasn’t a LA-exclusive thing, but still I’d expect even a little reporting to filter through this information blackhole you’re talking about if the resistance is on the scale you’re suggesting. I looked up “anti ice protests violent” and most results were from June with the rest from early July.
Wow all the way back in June before the protests fizzled after accomplishing next to nothing
Just keep on shifting those goalposts, you’ll get there eventually.
Whatever you gotta say to convince yourself I guess
But… you were the one that asked for convincing, I’m already convinced. I’m just choosing not to engage in a discussion about this topic because you’re clearly not willing to approach it in good faith. I know it’s kinda wounding to the ego when someone says “Nah I’m not doing this with you” but you’re just going to have to accept that that’s what’s happening.
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No your not. Your volunteering to go into the street to be rounded up by the cops. It’s the stupidest fucking thing. You literally have the equivalent of the printing Press giving to every person and you all think it’s easier to organize people to publicly show up in a town three states over then it is to use get those people to use the propaganda machine to spread a message.
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Thank you, this is a wonderful example of exactly the kind of ignorance I was talking about. I appreciate the support!
And they all clapped
Just know you’re no different than r/the_donald users
you’re*
Yes, for example the Gurkhas are from Nepal.
Or did you mean the regular army? They put down a major Maoist insurgency over the decade of 1996-2006, and have remained a significant force in Nepal. Historically they’ve played a major role in power transitions, such as the Rana era from 1846-1951 when military officer Jung Bahadur Rana overthrew the monarchy and established a hereditary prime ministership, and then again in King Mahendra’s 1960 coup when the monarchy took power until the 1990s.
But fortunately they’ve not been as prominently involved at playing “kingmaker” as the militaries of many other South Asian countries. They tend to act as a stabilizing force for whoever gets power by other means. I guess we’ll see if that pattern continues to the current unrest.
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Well yeah the gurkhas