• Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 days ago

    Is this because the meat slurry used to make nuggets contain bone? Thats what im assuming and not that a bone-in wing can be called boneless. But this is america so i have no idea.

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      It’s probably just the result of someone suing after finding a piece of bone in their boneless wing.

      Also, boneless wings tend to be made of cuts of breast meat, not the compressed meat slurry of nuggets. It’s basically the only thing that separates the two.

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        It is the result of someone suing, but I have no idea what you mean with the modifier “just”.

        A guy bought boneless wings, ate them, one of them had a long bone in it that he swallowed and it caused a massive infection.

        He of course sued, and the Ohio Supreme Court made this asinine ruling to protect the food supplier mega corporation, rather then forcing them to have proper quality control processes.

        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/26/boneless-chicken-wings-ohio-ruling

        It’s honestly one of the most mind boggingly stupid decisions I’ve ever heard. An Ohio State Senator introduced legislation in January to effectively tell the Supreme Court their ruling was dumb:

        https://www.newsweek.com/ohio-bill-aims-target-boneless-chicken-wings-2033419

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          Good to know Ohio health laws in place for consumers are actually a single-use ticket before being overwritten

          Edit: I’ve just read that the Supreme court ruled against this guy, so he lost the suit and the law actually meant nothing

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          It’s a meat product. Meat products come with the possibility of bones.

          We could also have prevented this situation with government mandated minimum chewing times.

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            2 days ago

            I’m gonna sell “peanutless” peanut butter (with peanuts) to allergic people and see how it goes

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            If they have the possibility of having bones in them, then they should not be labelled “boneless”, since they are then, you know, not boneless. They should be labelled “sometimes boneless”, or the company should do its job and follow proper quality control processes.

            We could also have prevented this situation with government mandated minimum chewing times.

            Please do tell us your detailed plan for having the government regulate the chewing time of children?

            I’m sure it’s more practical then just banning corporations from making false claims and lying to consumers.

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              Good Lord, every time I think that surely my sarcasm is obvious enough, someone goes ahead and proves me wrong.

              Unless you are eating octopus or calamari, every piece of meat ever comes with the possibility of bones. If you need the government to hold your hand and save you from that, maybe it’s time to consider vegetarianism.

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                Unless you are eating octopus or calamari, every piece of meat ever comes with the possibility of bones.

                Ok bud, so when I buy a chicken breast, it’s totally impossible for me to butcher and clean it in a way that there aren’t going to be bones in the end result?

                You think bones just randomly grow throughout the muscle in impossible to predict ways?

                Why on earth, should a corporation be allowed to advertise that they sell boneless wings that have bones in them? This isn’t the government holding someone’s hand this is the government preventing a massive corporation from lying and cutting corners to the point that people get hurt. Like Jesus Christ do you work for Tyson foods, are you sleep deprived, or genuinely just this daft?

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                  Tyson produces over 5.5 billion (with a B) chicken wings per year. Let’s assume it’s a similar number of boneless chicken wings.

                  Can you propose a process that is so flawless that it won’t fail a single time out of 5.5 Billion?

                  If you had ten people checking every single nugget by hand, you still might miss one out of every 5.5 BILLION.

                  No process is flawless, and it’s impossible to expect it to be.

                  Now, when a problem happens, I’d agree that Tyson should be on the hook to cover medical costs, etc. This shouldn’t hinge on the definition of “boneless.” Regardless of whether the customer should have known there was the chance of bone or not, their product caused harm in an unexpected way, and they should be liable for that.

                  But to expect them to have a literal perfect record of 0/5,500,000,000 is asinine.

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                    Can you propose a process that is so flawless that it won’t fail a single time out of 5.5 Billion?

                    Well yeah, two obvious ones:

                    1. what you do with chicken nuggets, where you grind the meat.

                    2. where you train and pay your employees well and have quality control processes and audits to detect whenever something goes wrong.

                    Now, when a problem happens, I’d agree that Tyson should be on the hook to cover medical costs, etc. This shouldn’t hinge on the definition of “boneless.” Regardless of whether the customer should have known there was the chance of bone or not, their product caused harm in an unexpected way, and they should be liable for that.

                    It entirely hinges on that definition. Tyson isn’t going to get sued or cover shit if you choke on a bone in a normal chicken wing.

                    The harm occurred only because Tyson advertised them as boneless when they weren’t.