+5 Yes, Puerto Rico is widely considered a colony—or often described as the world’s oldest colony—due to its status as an unincorporated U.S. territory. While residents are U.S. citizens, they lack voting representation in Congress, cannot vote for president,
85% of memes with made up percentages to make a point end with “let that sink in.” Let that sink in.
They really need to make Puerto Rico a full-fledged state at this point.
IIRC they’ve voted multiple times to stay away from the US, but yeah we should add DC and Samoa too
Kind of a have your cake and eat it scenario but I wouldn’t want to become part of America either.
I fully understand. I’ve lived here my whole life and I am disgusted at our current leadership.
Americans elected a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist who is now tanking our economy and making enemies of all our allies.
Set your expectations low.
Let that sink in.
the orange pedo clearly did not know Puerto Rico was a US territory during his first term… he also did not know it was an island
and this level of brilliance was rewarded with a second term by muricans… so yes, I tend to believe every stat that claims they are mostly ignorants
American here, if I could read I would be SO mad about what you wrote
thank you for your good humour… I know I am generalizing which is usually not a good thing, but the frustration mounting over the last few years is really getting me now
Believe me, you are not alone in that frustration. Living here is like watching your stove catch on fire and the one creepy uncle who no one talks to aside from major holidays is actively trying to block you from the extinguisher in the cabinet…while the rest of your relatives just sort of look away. Infuriated is a polite way of saying what I feel these days
~30% of voters will vote ® regardless of who. A smaller share will vote (D) regardless of who. The rest have to be convinced to vote for you instead of the other guy, and the largest group by far have to be convinced to get off their asses and vote at all.
Trump won a second term not because he had a massive upswing in popularity, but because Harris did the opposite of convincing people to actually vote and to do so for her. Apathy favors GOP, high turnout favors Dems.
Agreeing with your more detail breakdown, I cannot see how it contradicts what I posted before (which I think it’s your intention here).
At the end of the day, the USA thought it best to eat battery acid (trump) or starve to death (not vote) rather than eating the cold hamburger that was available (Harris)
We can argue a lot about the flaws of a 2 party system and, most importantly IMO, how deeply corrupt the USA’s version of “deMoCRacY” is… but at the end of the day, Americans decided to figuratively kill themselves and bring down the world with them, mostly out of fucking ignorance
Definitely agree with this, and also consider those who are unable to vote. By this i mean those who arent registered for whatever reason, or cant get to a poll. I encourage everyone to help with getting people to the polls this midterm: volunteer to drive people And share how on social media
It’s crazy to me that when i researched it appears that every couple of years they have a non American performer but no one complains. U2, Coldplay, The (fucking) Who. But you never heard anyone complaining,wonder why.
To be fair, until a couple weeks ago, I didn’t know Bad Bunny is…
At all.
He was on a late night show with Linus from Linus Tech Tips. That was my first time seeing him. I’m glad Linus was able to give this small creator the break he needed (/s but it was the first time I saw him…)
I have almost no idea who that Bad Bunny person is but I do know that fascists/republicans hate him so he must be pretty cool.
I’m Native American and some whites don’t think I’m American.
I’m as white as they come, moved to AZ for a bit and was ASTOUNDED by the number of people who think New Mexico is on the other side of the border or that every brown tinted person is clearly Mexican, despite like half of th state being Res territory. Now I’m in UT where the Utes are mostly a sports mascot
The fact that Reservations exist at all is a slap in the face, maybe this time instead of the Canadians yall burn down the White House, just sayin
Shhh don’t give away the plan…
Native also, I 100% got profiled by a white cop in a small town I went fishing in last fall. Got pulled over and he was surprised I wasn’t Mexican, fuck him.
Fuck da whites! We are in this together brother! Stand up and fight any ally is widely accepted.
Dude I worry about this so much. I’m not only native but I work in the construction industry and hauling all my ladders around in my tools around on my truck I’m so waiting for ice to roll up on my ass I’m going to have to get enough fight with them.
Same bro I work in the mining industry and so many people here are so happy about the ice raids even older natives are excited about it. What is really concerning is that puppy killer Kristie said last year before the 4th of July that natives should lose their status and there tribes.
This last week they tore down all of the plaques from Little bighorn
That is fucking bullshit.
This is actual “logic” my boss once used on this topic.
Native Americans arnt real Americans because they have native in front of them. Why would you need a different word to describe them if they were real Americans?
He’s Mexican, came over illegally and married into citizenship basically.
He also votes hard right maga and might be the dumbest man I’ve ever known.
Those pochos are the worst kind, literally traitors to their country
You should call White Americans “Euro Americans”, then. That may clarify things for this lost soul.
You might be talking about an uncle of mine. You’ve described him perfectly. I feel your pain ✊
Some of those whites have guns and “absolute immunity”
They didn’t know Bad Bunny was a US citizen because they’re ignorant of Puerto Rico.
I didn’t know Bad Bunny was a US citizen because I didn’t know he existed till last week.
We are not the same.
I didn’t know Bad Bunny was a US citizen because I didn’t know he existed till last week.
At least I’m not alone. I just figured it was me being an old fart and not up with what the kids are into.
I vaguely heard about a bunny something in US, but i pictured this bunny in my head
I vaguely heard about a bad… something else. Pictured it way different.
I vaguely heard about a bad… something else. Pictured it way different.
Yeah, a bad dragon is indeed something else. I imagine there’s a lot of overlap in the opponents of both though. =p
I think your experience is very common and is EXACTLY what is driving that statistic.
This is the same group that referred to Puerto Rico and a trash heap in the ocean…at that totallynotanazirally rally at MSG
okay but what kind of rock do you live under that you don’t know who the most streamed artist in the world is 😂. Off topic, continue.
We don’t live under it, we just prefer to listen to it.
brown skin= foreign is enough for conservatives.
71% of Americans have no idea that Puerto Ricans are American citizens.
Included in that 29% are all the people who are Puerto Ricans
I made these numbers up, but they’re likely not that far off.
You forgot to put “let that sink in” at the end.
I could, but mostly I’m preaching to the choir here.
It’s already sunk in.
Old stats but: 5.8 million Puerto Ricans in the US and 3.3 million in Puerto Rico in 2021 (about 340million total in the us in 2021).
I would say 29% is accurate if you include people that would rather be Puerto Ricans right now
Lol you had me going with the 29%!
It’s amazing how many Lemmings claim to be above billionaire propaganda and yet sit here jerking themselves off about, both, knowing Bad Bunny is a U.S. citizen and him being at the Super Bowl.
Here’s a thought: don’t watch the fucking Super Bowl. Crazy, outlandish idea — but as a U.S. citizen I can guarantee that it is possible for you to do this. Break your chains.
I watched the Super Bowl for 15 minutes.
It was annexed fair and square, peacefully and democratically according to international rules-based order.
Now other countries are the problem. They’re the bad guys.
While I understand most Americans are apparently racist idiots, I find that stat hard to believe.
In all the hoopla around the halftime show, I never once read anything other than he is Puerto Rican. Not even in the maga content the algorithm insists I want to see (to the extent I didn’t immediately block).
Maybe this is being too pedantic but it would be more believable if
- “73% of Americans don’t understand that puerto ricans are us citizens”. Because we are that dumb.
Replying to that German guy somewhere in the comments - Spanish is spoken all over the us as the second most common language. Certainly anywhere in the south you’ll hear it all the time, but even up here in New England it’s very common. There’s no reason to be surprised by hearing it nor to think they are anything other than Americans who are speaking Spanish
There’s an entire TikTok side, not just one influencer but several, that have centered their accounts around random chat apps where they ask north-americans if America is a continent, for comedy. Now, this is truly just anecdotal, however. I’m talking about several influencers who pump dozens of this kind of videos each, every day. Every video has 2 or 3 video chats, sometimes multiple people per chat. There’s so much content that they are their own hashtag and tiktok sphere, of videos making fun of north americans for not knowing basic geography.
I like to introduce myself as coming from America’s biggest country. I might then mention that we only speak French here.
If you ask South Americans, at least some of them will tell you that America is one continent.
The day I told my 3rd graders in Colombia that there were 7 continents, it sparked a conversation I was not expecting (because that is what every social studies textbook said when I was in school in the US). Here, they only count five. That was the day I learned there is not an international consensus about what constitutes a continent.
Here, they only count five.
Which other two get combined or does one get wholly discarded? Like the seven I’m used to are N. America, S.America, Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia/Oceania and Antarctica. Is Eurasia a single continent to them, does Antarctica or Australia not count, or something else?
And if you do try to define object science-based criteria, you get things like New Zealand is a continent
Same thing with planets. Rather appropriately the now-classified-as-a-dwarf-planet named Eris (after the goddess of strife and discord) being discovered was what set the wheels in motion that led to Pluto losing it’s status as a planet.
Yeah, this is such a shame: we could have been at like 13 planets by now!
Film yourself asking 100 people the same simple question
find 5 who are clueless
Only post the 5% of people who make for good content, never mention the other 95%
Morons lap this up as real
The ole Charlie Kirk youtube method didn’t die with him I see.
There’s no reason to… think they are anything other than Americans who are speaking Spanish
The vast majority of Americans speak English in public. People who speak Spanish as their primary language in public are usually assumed to be foreigners.
Quick correction. Puerto Rico, not Puerto Ricans, is politically limited. Any American citizen that chooses to reside in Puerto Rico loses their right to vote (looking at you Paul brothers). Any Puerto Rican that choses to reside in any of the 50 states has the same right to vote as anyone else.
Oh btw, people born in American Samoa are US Nationals but not Citizens
So bascially they’re second-class Citizens. They are allowed to freely travel withing the US, but cannot vote or run for federal office…
Laws are so fucking weird
edit: typo
What’s being corrected here?
It’s confusing now because it has been corrected.
Ah! That’s what I originally figured but then we got into a whole thread like there was a discrepency and I was so lost haha
Weird that the little edit icon isn’t up there
I don’t think the edit icon is a thing on this instance. I edited my previous comment a few times to test and I didn’t see it.
the more you know!
While residents are U.S. citizens, they lack voting representation in Congress, cannot vote for president,
…Right. That’s correct. Residents are US citizens and lack voting representation in congress and cannot vote for president. I feel like I must be missing something.
Also this is the case for US Citizens residing in Guam and Samoa
The correction is that the restriction is under the territory, not on the citizens. If they migrate to a state they can vote for president. If a citizen from a state moves to the territory the can’t vote for the president
…Right. I must still be missing something. Because that’s what the original post says, too
👍🏼
Same in DC as well.
At least DC gets 3 electors in presidential elections
Well sure, but it’s not like the residents get half a say without a vote so they’re just kind of there.
there is a vote for those electors. turnout is generally low because ~70% of the vote goes to a specific party and what’s on the ballot is only how to allocate a small portion of electors in the electoral college. most DC residents feel its pretty token and prefer to spend election day not stressing about something that’s out of their hands. when they do turn out the vote, it’s an act of “hey. we’re still here, goddammit.”
also this is all making miss my old hometown 🤣. DC is such a great city if your political interests are more towards community involvement than towards voting
Puerto Ricans have been fighting for a long time for statehood. Taking a look at the US now, I suggest reversing course. Independance would be a better choice.
From what I’ve heard there isn’t really a consensus among Puerto Ricans on what they want their status to be.
People indigenous to the island are very split between moving to closer alignment with the US via statehood or to move toward independence and ending the colonial commonwealth system. The only true consensus is that the current status quo is unsustainable and something needs to change.
Correct. The last vote barely failed. Think it was 51/49 or something close to that.
I don’t spend a lot of time with Puerto Ricans, but the two I keep in semi-regular contact with have said that they don’t want Puerto Rico to become a state (they wave vaguely at the rules for imports/exports to South American countries; apparently the island has relaxed rules on that compared to states?).
What’s actually stopped them from.becoming a state in the past? Seems like ~2013 was the last time a movement for that had any real traction?
Puerto Rico is unable to import or export directly to any country without going through the mainland United States first. This is a result of the Jones Act of 1920, shortly after PR gained citizenship but not statehood.
The Jones Act has caused some very fucked up consequences for hurricane relief like after H. Maria wrecked the island in 2017 and relief could not be provided from neighbors without a long extra trip to Florida for processing.
From the first article you linked:
Under the Jones Act, any vessel can enter Puerto Rico. In fact, many foreign vessels enter Puerto Rico regularly, importing goods from countries around the world. However, transportation of goods between two U.S. ports must be carried out by a vessel that was built in the U.S. and operated primarily by Americans. This law doesn’t single out Puerto Rico – it applies to all U.S. ports, the only exception being the U.S. Virgin Islands.
Don’t get me wrong, I hate the Jones Act as much as any rational American would, but from what I hear, they get a grab bag of exemptions on taxes when moving goods to/from South America (I suppose via non-US ships and via aircraft).
I don’t have the time for proper research at the moment to try to find what my dudes have talked about when it comes to laxer import/export controls, but may revisit later today if I get some down time.
Certainly they should wait three years but even if they were unanimously in support, it would take years to happen
