ICE still has over $70B in other funding so…
Is that in addition to the 180 billion dhs was it got in the bill last year?
Yeah through the all-or-nothing Big Beautiful Bill that was shamefully voted through last year.
AOC really needs to primary Schumer.
Someone needs to challenge schumer for leader, and jeffries. Why is there no ambition with the lackluster results, rock bottom approvals?
Jeffries is hand picked by pelosi, not one challenge, not then, not in the 10 years prior. Wtf?
I hate to break the news to people but there was an article just the other day about “swing voters” in Arizona. It was a mix of Rs, Ds, and independents who voted Biden in 2020 and Trump in 2024. They asked their opinions on ICE, etc. etc. Pretty much all IIRC said that ICE is going too far, people are living in fear, etc.
The thing that stood out is the last sentence- NONE said ICE should be abolished/dismantled.
Reading in here you’d think the popular opinion is that it should be. I can tell you it’s not true. Even some of my more liberal/left friends don’t always think it should be abolished, not to mention anyone more center.
I personally think it should’ve been abolished yesterday and the entire DHS dismantled but I also realize that is not the popular opinion, or at least seen through polling etc. I hope all the people thinking it should are voting in primaries for candidates who argue it should. Or convincing their neighbors that it should and they also vote accordingly.
Ok but these people are too stupid to care about. Just jangle some keys after abolishing ice and they’ll forget about it
These people are the normal, liberal, middle-class of America and have the greatest political capital, more than any other group, because they are the breadbasket of our nation’s tax revenue and disposable-income shopping habits. Their comfort and desire to preserve that comfort is why ANY of this is happening. Yes they can be distracted by keys easily, but they’re already held by capital because again… they are comfortable.
The second strongest form of political capital is armed groups of brainless nationalists who will fight and die for their nation’s flag.
Where does progressive political capital sit on this scale? Somewhere below “unarmed protestors politely asking for civility.”
We need to understand how power works if we ever want actual change in this country, and it’s not hugboxes and performative inclusivity, it’s flags and guns and money.
whats funny is ice is a relatively new thing so I don’t see why not abolish it.
The first reaction is because that sounds like just allowing unlimited immigrants. They can’t consider it not existing.
They want to be the ones over funding ICE and doing nothing about their targeted oppression
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“Immigration tactics” again being a euphemism for “shooting innocent people in the face in broad daylight.”
Performative bullshit. They’ll fund the fascist department they helped create (DHS) soon enough. Primary the old dems out!
I didn’t know why you’re being downvoted. It’s true.
It’s OK. Nothing would make me happier than to be wrong in this case. Hopefully they stick to their guns, shut down the gestapo, and finally do something to restore democracy and protect the safety of their constituents. I’m not holding my breath.
Regardless, I’d recommend getting shitty Schumer out.
He weakened the democrat’s response into jelly, and loves Israel. That bastard straight up said “All the aid that Israel needs, I will continue to fight for it” and called aid for Israel his “baby”
what state voted him in?
They won’t. The old guard is hopeless. We need a third party. A party that stands for the middle class. Abolish the electoral college, add Supreme Court justices, get rid of the filibuster, and tax the rich.
Harris lost because she was more of the same. Trump won because he claimed he was in the outside and could fix this mess. We need outsiders. We need Mamdanis and Johnny Offstreets to stand for the middle class and save America.
No, we need a complete overhaul of our voting system. As things currently stand, a third party will never have any real power on the national level. And don’t get me wrong, local elections are really important, even more than national in many ways. But without proportional representation, there will never be real meaningful change.
I totally agree, but I think it’s a question of how to go about achieving that overhaul. I think the best method for that right now is to “hijack” the primaries of one of the political parties, get the old guard out, and nominate new candidates that want to see that reform. I don’t see that happening with the Republican party for hopefully obvious reasons, which just leaves the Democrats.
All the while leading up to midterms, get organized outside the party system, stage protests and strikes advocating for changes to the system. And if it’s clear the midterms are rigged, or the newly elected Democrats fail to push reform, use those same external organizations to tear it all down and probably write a new Constitution (something I didn’t think I’d be advocating for two years ago).
But right now, the most important thing is getting involved in getting organized and getting involved in the primaries. Here’s a list of dates I found: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-primary-elections/calendar
Third party gets in power and then packs the Supreme Courts. Then passes vote reform and proportional voting. Then disbands the electoral college. Then dismisses the Senate.
LOOK A PERSON CAN DREAM OK!
I like it. Fuck, it’s way better then what we have right now!
I’ll dream with ya!
He is fixing some of the fraud at least.
If democrats don’t take fraud seriously then people will want someone who will. We need a more logical democrat who takes tax dollars seriously, to efficiently distribute the money to those who need it and cut down on waste to optimize tangible value.
This is something we can all get behind
There are blue MAGA in the midst and don’t mind all the political murders and erosion of democracy, as long as their economic privileges are not touched.
It really is an annoying thing for the states they need them to have power but also push out as many idiots as possible before hand
There’s no pleasing you, is there?
him and a few of his alt accounts judging from downvotes.
Typical Boomer Doomerism. It’s all hopeless and we should all give up and die eh?
My dude, the primaries are probably not gonna matter since Trump is very likely to just steal 2026 and 2028.
None of this would be happening if Kamala had won, but you’re an .ml user so I wouldn’t expect you to be able to comprehend that fact.
Can we stop with the Kamalaposting now please? I don’t think any minds are going to be changed on that front anymore
I kinda feel its relevant when you get the democrats just as bad kind of crap.
Also it’s wholly irrelevant at this point. If someone didn’t vote for Kamala in 2024 and still thinks that was the right decision they are either so stupid so as to be involed, republican but I repeat myself, or just an asshole.
Point is theres no point beating that particular drumb at this point.
well I think that is who he is responding to or would seem like it. I mean so would you say just block people rather than continue trying to point out the differences?
Up to the person on that one. I’m an argumentative bastard who enjoys a fight be it verbal or physical. But for those with less patience prolly.
He’s actually one of the least radical .ml users around and generally has pretty sane takes.
Seeing ‘least insane xxx user’ played straight is weird and I don’t like it
Now that you point it out, I kinda agree. I honestly wasn’t going for the meme take though.
All Kamala winning would do is delay the inevitable.
Electing a Democrat to the Presidency these days is like draining an epidermoid cyst. Electing a Republican is letting the cyst rupture.
Draining a cyst won’t get rid of it. The only way to remove a cyst for good is to cut the whole thing out.
I disagree. The important thing is for republicans to not win anything. Without them and yes the dems would split into a more properly left and right party rather than a big tent not coocoo crazy say they are right but would be recognized by their ancestors just 30 years back party. Right now its a sane vs crazy vote. Until we eliminate the crazy we won’t make progress on left vs right.
That will never happen. The elite would never allow the Democrats to achieve decades of victory, let alone split into progressive parties.
All Kamala winning would do is delay the inevitable.
#BothSides, for sure. But how do YOU define “harm reduction” and “binary choice”?
Easy. States that disapprove of unconstitutional laws and EOs can declare that they’re null and void in their states.
Don’t think that the states are completely powerless against whoever occupies the office of President. They’ve nullified laws before, they can do it again.
States have their own legislatures. What you’re proposing is up to them. Federal legislators don’t have anything to do with state policy, they can only enact federal policy
Yes, it is indeed up to them. Do you see what I’m getting at here?
Are you suggesting defederation? I view that as a last resort. Despite all the threats to electoral integrity, the election hasn’t been stolen yet. There’s still a chance to save this ship.
New England or the West Coast would be fine after a dissolution of the Union of States, but what about all the disadvantaged people in deep red states? You want to just leave them behind?
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Yeah but delaying it until after I die would have been nice.
A very boomer mentality. Who cares what happens to the kids so long as things go great for you, yeah?
Yeah, things are going juuuust great for me, uh-huh. I know dark humor doesn’t always go over very well but sometimes I go for it anyway.
There’s only so much they can actually do.
If only they would’ve done literally anything when they were in power.
Or they le have kept the government closed! We know for a fact them letting a temporary budget get passed. Their mediocrity has allowed conservatives to thrive.
There’s only so much they
can actually do.are willing to try.FTFY. They’d rather court Republicans than try progressive policy.
Guess which Democrat senator voted in favor? That’s right, strokeboi.
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