Independence Day is my favourite movie with Will Smith, my second favourite is the one where he is fighting Zombies can’t recall the name. He was for a good long while the most bankable actor of colour in Hollywood ahead of Danzel and Morgan Freeman. TENET would have been a different movie with him alongside Robert Pattinson. The sad thing is how he raised his children to become part of the publicity machine instead of seeking out academic excellence. He fed them directly into the maw of the media machine where the last name and nepotism rule the roost. Sad really I am sure some of that can be laid at the feet of his practice of scientology.
I honestly think he’s kind of a child or childish. I had always suspected it from some odd bits and pieces in lyrics gushing over the Cuban cigar in Jiggy, then feeling the need to point out that he won’t light it, it’s just for the look. I love that the rumor mill thought Nas wrote the lyrics in whole. The slap kinda sinched it, It looked like a grade schooler defending their girlfriend.
I mean, props that he did something about it, but he should have at least tried to act like he was a badass. He’s a fucking actor for god sakes.
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Yeah but, what if you could star in this instead?
A cool thing about being tone deaf is that I can’t tell who voices who.
A sad thing is I can’t tell hot water vs cold water being poured. Finding out people could do that seemed like a super power to me.
How is this different from regular deafness?
I usually just wait for a subtle hints of steam building up inside the boiler. To be clear, i think shark tale is really not bad, at all. But it’s weird. I have a dvd of this movie
He also turned down Django Unchained. Will Smith is just shit at picking roles.
Thank God. He would have ruined it.
Will can’t help but be himself in a movie. Instead of… You know… “Act”.
I don’t want the alternate Django Unchained where Will Smith starts rappin and getting jiggy with it.
I mean, he’s picked plenty of bangers.
Sometimes there’s scheduling conflicts. Sometimes a director casts a wide net, knowing he’s going to get a bunch of rejections. Sometimes you get roped into a project as a favor or a quid pro quo (Vin Disel coming back for a cameo in FF: Tokyo Drift to get Chronicles of Riddick made, only to end up making nine more movies and counting) and it changes your career.
I honestly can’t think of the last will smith movie I enjoyed
Bad Boys for Life was fun.
Why does Will Smith in Django Unchained make me think of Wow Wow.
he’s also extremely dedicated to maintaining his brand. turning down Django Unchained does feel like a HUGE wiff to me though. Django is basically Deadshot if Deadshot lived in the Antebellum South (presumably after the California gold rush since he spends some time in Colorado). maybe Tarantino films can’t ever fit the Will Smith toxic positivity brand?
maybe he just didnt get the point of the story or something. I dont think you can act well if you cant get into the character
In general, will smith has always been an action type of guy in his roles, but to do that he always needed to have clear motivations. I guess a nested dream in a dream isn’t functional for this type of actor.
Well, and the fact that back then these movies were almost a gamble you know, like now we treat them as cult classics, but than they were absolutely new and nobody know what they were about.
I’m sure Keano was the right choice there. I could see him handling the Matrix if he walked into it in bewilderment like the original Men in Black movie. He’d be fine up until somewhere around the Oracle. I think when things started coming together, and he needed to start commanding his own destiny, the suspension of disbelief would have dropped.
I suppose I could see Inception as being a very risky film based on the script, to be completely fair
and at the time, that was only a third of the way through Nolan’s career as a blockbuster director. not even, actually
I dunno if I would call Inception a gamble, it’s Christopher Nolan
Listen I know he’s an asshole, we all saw the slap etc; but I would love to have seen a Will Smith Inception…. Remember how good enemy of the state was
Remember how good enemy of the state was
Idk if you can compare the dynamic between Smith and Hackman against DiCaprio and Murphy. I don’t think DiCaprio needs to steal the scenes the same way Will Smith does.
Also, Smith has done plenty of SciFi that was… mid. I am Legend worked in large part because Will Smith was acting against himself. As a lead in an ensemble cast - like in Suicide Squad - he’s not nearly as impressive.
Ya, but it’s good in spite of Will Smith.
Once Matrix got super popular Will slapped himself.
The casting for Matrix was stellar. Even the mid-tier sequels had some incredible performances on their own merit. Possible Smith recognized he wasn’t a good fit and passed on it. Also possible he picked up on the underlying themes too well and got freaked out (there’s plenty of speculation that Smith has been in the closet going back decades).
still didn’t hurt :)
Nah sure, giant mecha-spider in the Wild West is more straightforward I guess.
(Speaking of which Kevin Smith did a ride of a story about a superman movie that never got made, which ties into that very same Mecha-spider)
Wild West was a fantastic movie and I’m sad they never mad a sequel.
I enjoy Kevin Smith story time far more than his movies.
With this crisis of new stories to tell, with this incessant demand and lack of offer, it would be interesting to see the movies that famously never were made or would have been made differently with other directors, protagonists, scripts, adaptations, etc. I’d still avoid them, but a Matrix film starring Will Smith would be a success selling tickets.
Ever heard about his wife?
HOW DARE YOU
He has a wife, you know?Her name is Infragantia… Infragantia Cuckolds
The bald one?
Making fun of a black woman for alopecia is kinda low… You’re better than that. At least I hope so.
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The jiggy with guy dumb?
The wild wild west guy dumb?
Yes
Let’s all get jiggy with it!
Will smiths thing is most similar to dwayne johnson, he wanted to be the LEAD or the most prominent actor and not the side character
Agreed and his personality takes over the story which works for men in black but I don’t think it would for the matrix.
Wild Wild West was ok too
What do you mean, he played the genie, and, oh right…
His acting as the genie was OK. But it was very clear that he was acting in the shadow of Robin Williams for that role. It is kinda hard to move away from that one however.
Some people are not set up for science fiction or fantasy at all. Will Smith is a borderline case, though.
I think with The Matrix specifically it has to do with the physicality. Late 90s Will Smith was in shape and could do big, bombastic action, but I can’t imagine him doing precise martial arts moves without it looking like a comedy.
Thats what we all said about Keanu. He was a joke at the time. Or rather basically type cast. Even in the more serious roles he was pretty goofy. Speed comes to mind. The Matrix gave me and many i know a bigger liking for the young silly Ted Logan.
Yeah but that would go both ways. Imagine he did the matrix and it maybe worked out. People would now be like: can you imagine the shitty actor Keanu Reeves was going to play neo in the matrix?
Didn’t you do a sci-fi with his kid? I’ve never seen it and I have no idea what it was about or what it was called but I’m sure it was a sci-fi.
He’s done quite a bit of sci-fi! Off the top of my head I can think of
- Men in Black
- I, Robot
- I am Legend
- Independence Day
Oh yeah I’d forgotten he was in independent day. That’s not a slight against him, I’ve just not seen it in ages.
The only reason I didn’t include things like I robot as sci-fi is it’s only surface level sci-fi. You could easily have made it be about Orcs and demons and it would have fitted.
I was trying to think if he had been in any hard sci-fi and the only thing I can think of is that film with his kid in it. No idea what it was called.
I watch Independence Day every 4th of July, but what I like to call the “abridged version” where I watch until the aliens blow up the White House and then I’m done =)
Basically the same character in all those movies. Not a criticism but it’s the same dude. Neo is not a bad ass running down a cephalopod. He’s learning and adapting to a system and using his mind. I just dont see it working out as well as he is a front man, not a team. He takes over the story with personality.
None of those films feature any science.
Neither does The Matrix, but it’s still firmly planted in the realm of science fiction.
That’s why it is called science fiction!
After Earth. It’s kinda lightweight as far as sci fi goes.
He was fine with the script up to following the white rabbit.
