The cars are one thing, but that horrible excuse for a truck gets all the aggression and hatred I can muster on the roads that won’t lead me to prison. Those things only started to be sold once the Republican’s favorite South African went full mask off. No excuse for owning one of those.
In LA the amount of them is so incredibly cringe inducing. They never, ever stop looking like shit, no matter what crappy wraps or vanity plates with reddit tier puns they put on it.
Not many sadly on the US. Basically everything from a legacy automaker is the same shit they made before, but with the gas tank and engine replaced with a battery and electric motors.
The only real alternatives that actually take advantage of EVs to give new functionality and convenience, are the ones that didn’t make gas vehicles. Companies like Lucid, Polestar, and Rivian.
For those coming from a gas car, there’s not much to miss. But coming from a Tesla, the missing functionality is extremely apparent. Simple things like the ability to leave climate on when you go into a store, working phone keys with automatic proximity unlock and relocking. So many legacy automakers, even the ones often mentioned as “good” EV alternatives miss easy to add functionality like that. They leave in unnecessary crap like having you press an Engine Start/Stop button even though the car never really is fully “off”.
I don’t really think minor conveniences like that really matter all that much, especially because with them comes all the other absolutely insane design decisions Tesla made on fundamental things, like not having real door handles.
Coming from a Tesla since 2018 through late last year… All of that makes a difference when you use dit daily and no longer have it. But it all depends where you are, you think it’s a minor inconvenience, but I’d bet you also don’t currently have that capability.
In real world every day use, the door handles made zero difference for me. I don’t live in a cold area where ice buildup is an issue. I live in a desert, so being able to leave climate on while I head into a store is something I used nearly every day. I never even considered it as something I wanted until I had it and suddenly found out at virtually no legacy automaker EVs do it for whatever reason. That capability missing is a massive downgrade in capability for no reason other than laziness from the manufacturers to do as little as possible with their EVs.
I literally own a Tesla, I do have that capability. And I live in one of the hottest places in the US.
The door handles are a fundamental safety concern. The lack of physical knobs in favor of a touch screen are safety concerns. The fact I have to jump through a layered menu to turn on and off various features while driving is crazy.
I’m not saying the good features aren’t nice, just that the asinine design decisions greatly overshadow them.
The door handles are a fundamental safety concern.
Possibly, but Tesla was by no means the first to use flush handles, electric locks, or frameless windows. They’re just mentioned in the news more because it gets views. People get trapped in their ICE cars all the fucking time, glass breaker and seatbelt cutting tools have existed for decades for a reason. If you’re lookt at fire risk specifically… there are nearly 200k car fires every year in the US alone, almost all of those are ICE vehicles. Even if you break it down by engine type per 100k, you end up with hybrid vehicles at 3,475 per 100k vehicles, ICE at 1,530 per 100k, and EVs at 25 per 100k. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/business/electric-vehicle-safety.html
The lack of physical knobs in favor of a touch screen are safety concerns.
Maybe, but in reality I think this is blown way out of proportion. I see people mention this, but what are you actually needing knobs for? I see people mention stuff like media, but media controls are on the wheel, you don’t even need to reach at all. And climate I rarely need to adjust while driving, you just set the temp you want and from my experience the Tesla was way better than any other vehicle I’ve driven before or since with making the right adjustments on the Auto setting. And that doesn’t get into the possibility of using the voice activation system to make those changes either.
The fact I have to jump through a layered menu to turn on and off various features while driving is crazy.
The only thing I ever needed to use any sort of menu for while driving was adjusting the windshield wiper speed manually. What are you having to go in and out of menus for all the time?
Seriously. That and Tesla.I live in a progressive city and the number of teslas makes me angry. Some of them have the apology stickers but most don’t.
I saw one the other day that had a plate with “BLMLESS”. That either says “blameless” which, no, or it means “Black Lives Matter -less”.
The cars are one thing, but that horrible excuse for a truck gets all the aggression and hatred I can muster on the roads that won’t lead me to prison. Those things only started to be sold once the Republican’s favorite South African went full mask off. No excuse for owning one of those.
In LA the amount of them is so incredibly cringe inducing. They never, ever stop looking like shit, no matter what crappy wraps or vanity plates with reddit tier puns they put on it.
You can fix that with a mask, a bat, a change of clothes, preplanned routes that you never repeat, and not currently having any other hobbies.
At the time I bought my Tesla, it was the only viable long range EV. Nowadays there is no excuse, there are better, cheaper EVs available.
Not many sadly on the US. Basically everything from a legacy automaker is the same shit they made before, but with the gas tank and engine replaced with a battery and electric motors.
The only real alternatives that actually take advantage of EVs to give new functionality and convenience, are the ones that didn’t make gas vehicles. Companies like Lucid, Polestar, and Rivian.
For those coming from a gas car, there’s not much to miss. But coming from a Tesla, the missing functionality is extremely apparent. Simple things like the ability to leave climate on when you go into a store, working phone keys with automatic proximity unlock and relocking. So many legacy automakers, even the ones often mentioned as “good” EV alternatives miss easy to add functionality like that. They leave in unnecessary crap like having you press an Engine Start/Stop button even though the car never really is fully “off”.
I don’t really think minor conveniences like that really matter all that much, especially because with them comes all the other absolutely insane design decisions Tesla made on fundamental things, like not having real door handles.
Coming from a Tesla since 2018 through late last year… All of that makes a difference when you use dit daily and no longer have it. But it all depends where you are, you think it’s a minor inconvenience, but I’d bet you also don’t currently have that capability.
In real world every day use, the door handles made zero difference for me. I don’t live in a cold area where ice buildup is an issue. I live in a desert, so being able to leave climate on while I head into a store is something I used nearly every day. I never even considered it as something I wanted until I had it and suddenly found out at virtually no legacy automaker EVs do it for whatever reason. That capability missing is a massive downgrade in capability for no reason other than laziness from the manufacturers to do as little as possible with their EVs.
I literally own a Tesla, I do have that capability. And I live in one of the hottest places in the US.
The door handles are a fundamental safety concern. The lack of physical knobs in favor of a touch screen are safety concerns. The fact I have to jump through a layered menu to turn on and off various features while driving is crazy.
I’m not saying the good features aren’t nice, just that the asinine design decisions greatly overshadow them.
Possibly, but Tesla was by no means the first to use flush handles, electric locks, or frameless windows. They’re just mentioned in the news more because it gets views. People get trapped in their ICE cars all the fucking time, glass breaker and seatbelt cutting tools have existed for decades for a reason. If you’re lookt at fire risk specifically… there are nearly 200k car fires every year in the US alone, almost all of those are ICE vehicles. Even if you break it down by engine type per 100k, you end up with hybrid vehicles at 3,475 per 100k vehicles, ICE at 1,530 per 100k, and EVs at 25 per 100k.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/business/electric-vehicle-safety.html
Maybe, but in reality I think this is blown way out of proportion. I see people mention this, but what are you actually needing knobs for? I see people mention stuff like media, but media controls are on the wheel, you don’t even need to reach at all. And climate I rarely need to adjust while driving, you just set the temp you want and from my experience the Tesla was way better than any other vehicle I’ve driven before or since with making the right adjustments on the Auto setting. And that doesn’t get into the possibility of using the voice activation system to make those changes either.
The only thing I ever needed to use any sort of menu for while driving was adjusting the windshield wiper speed manually. What are you having to go in and out of menus for all the time?
VW and Hyundai are producing great EVs.