• Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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    Fuck this guy. Fuck him. He’s a piece of shit that’s desperate to be the next president because he’s seen how low the bar is.

    I’m a Californian, and I know we can do better. Demand better, America.

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    This fuckin guy has been moving right for the last several years. This is the same strategy that lost the Democrats the last election, and it will lose them the next one.

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        You’re probably right. I just watched as he wasted no time implementing the Supreme Court ruling that cities could outlaw homelessness. More recently he’s been sitting down with far right media personalities.

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      I don’t think so. A white centrist man beat Trump in 2020. That’s all the qualification it takes apparently which is handy because that’s all Newsom has to offer but I can see him coming out on top.

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        Biden won in 2020 on a “not Trump” platform. He then proceeded to do fuck-all for working people, and fuck-all to prevent another Trump term. Dems figured they could skate by with the same type of campaign again, and they were wrong.

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        At some point you people are going to have to accept the fact that there were extenuating circumstances in 2020. And without those Trump would have been a consecutive two-term president.

        If the Democrats shove Newsom down our throats we’ll have another GOP president following Trump.

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          Absolutely. It drives me fucking crazy every time I hear the Democrats lament that they lost because they couldn’t get their message through to the people. Fuckers, that’s absolutely ass-backwards. We’re trying to get our message through to you and time and time again, you pretend not to hear us. Is it any wonder at all?

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    I don’t want to lose him, but Gov Ned Lamont from CT is a pretty good governor. Maybe a little bit more towards the center than some would like but he’s done a good job with jobs, taxes and covid

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      Yeah it’s going to be Newsom vs Vance and the left will scream that it should have been Bernie and that they’ll be voting for Jill Stein.

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        Then maybe we should offer the left a candidate that they’ll vote for. It’d be a nice change of pace.

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        Almost like this has happened before but the Dems will intentionally not learn from their previous mistakes

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          According to the left anything the democrats will do is a mistake.

          I like how the left sidesteps that whole issue by not running anyone.

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            Not “anything” the Democrats will do, just the great, vast majority of things. Like running terrible candidates, on unpopular platforms, screwing over the voters, fighting to keep popular politicians and polices from getting on the ballot…

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            Leftists have been very clear about why the Democrats are failing their voters. A party that supports Capitalism can not support workers, simple as.

            You can start listening to them and stop trying to bully them into submission any time you feel like engaging in reality.

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              People would listen if they actually showed up. If leftists are so numerous then it shouldn’t be a problem to get many candidates elected. See mamdani. But in general they do not.

              So either that many leftists don’t exist or their policies aren’t actually that popular OR theyre too lazy or ideological to go vote.

              Either way, it ensures “establishment” candidates go on to the general election.

              The only time your voice matters is in the voting booth. Far too many eschew that.

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              Honestly this is a good reason why the left is and will always be mostly ineffectual as a political movement.

              When you’re not fighting yourselves over who’s the most ideologically pure you’re spouting shit like this.

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        No, it’s going to be Newsom against Donald Trump Jr. , In an epic battle of Kimberly Guilfoyle’s exes…

        (Yes, she was married to Newsom, and then engaged to Junior for years before they split up)

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    No. He should do what he can to push out and fight against this current regime, but nobody likes him or wants him as a president. Nobody.

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      That’s a pretty good point

      I’m appreciating Newsom as a foil to Trump, and want him to continue that, but I really wouldn’t want him to be the Democratic nominee. I’d much rather have a Mamdani-esque nominee

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      You’ve got to remember that you and I are not the average Democratic primary voter. Clearly there are plenty of Democrats who think this is a good idea.

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        You should read the article. In the pole referenced Newsom is in 6th place. He got a higher than expected percentage of the poling which the author has blown up here with their deceptive clickbaity headline. Possibly in an effort to make people think that Newsom is the favorite.

        Not that I’d be really happy to vote for the actual favorite in the pole which is Kamala Harris. Though I would absolutely vote for her over Newsom any day of the week.

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          I wish I could man but we’re in a Steelers Wheel situation where there are .ml clowns to the left of us and Nazis to the right and here we are stuck in the middle of neoliberals.

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      Why not? I don’t know much about him except that he isn’t 300 years old like the rest of the Democrats.

      He seems to be doing a good job in California?

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        He’s just another slimy corporatist owned by the ultra wealthy, but throws a bone to the social issues of Democrats. Pretty much the same strategy that modern Democrats have had for the past 40+ years. I will absolutely vote for him in the general or support him in pushing against Trump/Repulicans, but he’s one of my least favorite Democrats now.

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    He’s nothing if not a political opportunist. Really hoping a better candidate starts gaining traction though.

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    We really are in the idiocracy timeline.

    Politicians are picked on their staffer’s ai meme game