If I hear one more person say something along the lines of, “AI is the future” I’m going to strangle them. Of all the people that say that shit, none of them can explain how it works.
I’ve been hesitant to play around with AI just because of how sneaky business is done lately and I don’t trust “business”. I can’t consciously reconcile my use of AI with the horrendous resources required to keep it up and running. I’d rather go “green” and figure out shit on my own, using old school research methodologies. My only caveat to this is if I really, really wanted a funny image. Maybe a Spongebob and Magilla Gorilla mashup. That, I’d sell out for. /s
Nah they developed all that tech in multiple underground bunkers somewhere…
Uh…recombinant DNA experiments were never paused, and while human cloning is illegal in non shitholes, Sam Altman has a company to genetically modify embryos in San Francisco called Preventive.
I find AI very frustrating. I had a script I wanted to turn into a systemd service which I’ve never done. I searched the web, didn’t find quite what I wanted so I asked AI. It gave a great answer to exactly my question and explained what every field was doing. It got me there faster than searching and browsing forums would have.
So great, I also wanted to set up a watchdog on the pi to reboot. It tells me to get watchdog package from apt then edit a systemd conf file. An hour later with nothing working right gave up and found a tutorial in about 30 seconds of web browsing that made it clear AI was mixing up instructions from 2 different methods.
So it saved me 5 minutes on one thing, cost me an hour on another. I feel like the internet and search engines of 10 years ago were much better than what we have now.
That is my exact experience. I was basically just incoherently whining about an issue I had that involved accessing the DB for old legacy windows photo albums and preserving them, and it spit out a fully working program that did all that.
Then again, it often latches onto a way to do something that messes things up and leads nowhere, and I have to be the one to say: “STOP. The goal is to install a scanner on a very common OS, one that is praised for being particularly compatible to this. Now you want me to add 50 lines of custom configuration to a background service and switch it to an unsupported version. We are clearly on the wrong path here.”
Hence I do experiment with it at home to see its limits, but my customers get 100 % human generated solutions.
It was better ten years ago.
That touches on the heart of it; search engines have been so enshittified that AI is by default better, because it occasionally gets information from its training data that isn’t easily found through normal searching.
(Some) AI has it’s place, as in GAN AI is amazing at finding subtle indicators of patterns that can be extrapolated to new data, but got it’s just so bad at 99% of applications it has ever been used for, including the entire concept of LLMs which are such an inherently flawed technology that they’ll never be passable as useful for anyone that isn’t a greedy shortsighted CEO wanting to replace workers as soon as possible.
here’s how I do it :
Word it as best as I can. If the AI gives a specific and likely answer, doublecheck the documentation or stack overflow, or its listed sources.
It sucks a lot of the stuff I’m searching comes from the same three fucking AI generated things from 2024 onwards
Progress cannot be stopped, it will continue until the apocalypse comes because of it and no one can stop it. It’s a pattern.
Recombinant DNA promised better organ transplants, but it made Christians uncomfortable, so Bush II banned it.
They consider it playing god, but these tech cultists think they’re making god and apparently that’s okay.
Some of them genuinely do believe that they’re making a nuGod and want to be the profit, I’m sorry. I mean Prophet of that nuGod.
Jaron Lanier shed some like on the techbros he’s had to work with and their mindset.
None of those were paused LOLOLOLOL
Came here to say this, but without the LOLs.
Came here to say this, but with one lol.
Idk if you know this but lol counts as punctuation too you don’t even need a period lol see
this is the way
That’s not how this meme format works
And yet it was made, posted, saved, and shared. Because posting MORE content is better than posting GOOD content
I’m not worried about AI ruining the internet…we’ve already done it ourselves.
How is “human cloning” a) a real technology b) a bigger danger than the 8 billion fucking morons already here c) different from twins and triplets?
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Genetically modified embryos were made by a lab in China for a wealthy client.
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The technology is not accurate, other modifications could lead to genetic diseases
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Twins and triplets are not modified.
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We can clone a sheep and even nearly bring species back from extinction via cloning. That is vastly more advanced than just cloning a person, as for the other factors it’s mostly a matter of ethics what with the potential for cloning celebrities for stupid reasons or making a sapient clone just to harvest their organs, which as an aside wasn’t that a Sliders episode?
making a sapient clone just to harvest their organs
A clone just makes a genetically identical baby, though, and they are shorter-lived. Dolly only lived half as long as the sheep she was a clone of, before she died of old age.
Unless you wanted to wait 15 - 20 years, for organs that might, on average, last 15, cloning isn’t practical.
I’m assuming we can solve the telemere issue for this. Frankly though it seems to be a stalled out field, at least until we can figure out how to better use stem cells.
But yeah if you are in your 20s or even 50s making a clone baby of yourself and waiting 20 years would be technically viable to get a new set of organs. Which is more what I’m referring to, especially since creating a healthy body you can rip apart would basically require letting it live a relatively healthy life.
It was probably a Sliders episode since 90s off-brad scifi did pretty much everything the twilight zone failed to, but it definitely was an entire movie
Well in theory we can fix all society. But we are greedy fucks
Some of us are greedy fucks, we let them make the decisions for some reason.
I’ve always advocated for a system where people who are qualified but don’t want to should lead…
Who gets to say who’s qualified? While I appreciate experts, any filter you add to democracy is dangerous. I think experts should serve a large council of randomly selected citizens and people who were ranked higher than a lottery option in a ranked voting system. That allows us to have career politicians, but also prevents them from entrenching themselves as the “lesser evil”.
I think it’s the majority that are greedy fucks to be honest.
Thats called sortition
Sortition does best as an anti-corruption mechanism, rather than a full system that removes all politicians. I like to merge it with ranked voting by adding a lottery option to the ballot that politicians have to beat. This, for lack of a better term, Ranked Sortition system is also an easier transition from the current system, so even if you want a full sortition this is easier to implement at various local levels where people still need to get used to the idea.
Edit: Also is there a com where we can talk about these sort of voting theory things?
Yes it is!
I didn’t use that word because no one ever knows wtf it means lol
I kinda like the term randomocracy
Ooo I like that.
ooooohh it’s so dangerous and capable ooohhhhh please we need to be regulated ooooooo we’re not releasing it to the public it’s so dangerous ooooooo
No idea what you’re on about. Mythos is a GAME CHANGER. Completely DESTROYS software security. Thats why we’re going to SAVE THE WORLD by letting our corporate sponsors use it.
If they regulate something they don’t have (AGI), they (corps) can steal it from the small shop that creates it 30 years from now. insert head tapping meme here
The only thing dangerous about AI is people believing the hype and thinking it can actually think and do things it can’t do at all. LLMs, flock cameras etc. are just MENACE matchbox computers at their core. And it’s dangerous that governments and CEOs are just blindly relying on whatever crap they pump out without human supervision.
But! What if a computer could reproduce all the same phenomenon as a brain?
Do we have any reason to think this might be the case? Not really. But. We also (maybe) have no reason to think this isn’t the case. What else are we gonna spend trillions gambling on? An ecosystem capable of supporting mammals? Don’t make me laugh!
Its dangerous to our future, our ecosystem and our way of life even if the stupid things can’t think.
I agree that the amount of water and electricity these AI centers gobble up is a concern. But I don’t know what you mean by our way of life. Personally I think it’s very useful when judiciously used. It’s dangerous if NASA haphazardly tosses AI generated code into the OS for a rocket going on a moon mission. But to quickly generate a meme or YT thumbnail is harmless.
Turns out when everyone acts rationally, we can actually accomplish shit.
And then there’s antichiral bacteria, where the entire scientific community will shoot you if you even breath wrong adjacent to the idea
As someone who has family that died from mad cow (prion disease), fuck everything about that. The fact that there are prion-tainted spaces out in the wild, is terrifying enough.
ooo, that’s a fun concept to think of. yeah, grab your go bag.
What’s that and what do you mean by breathing wrong at the idea? Is someone trying to breed some sort of supervillain bacteria?
Others have already answered, but yeah it’s a bit of a Pandora’s box. We almost certainly wouldn’t be able to contain it, and there’s no way of knowing what it would do the the world or even universe. It’s some supremely scary shit.
Almost every organic molecule has a mirrored counterpart, like a normal screw and a left-handed screw.
Almost none of them occur in the nature.
So we have the technology to synthesize them now, and synthesize a bacteria out of them.
But if you do that, and the bacteria escapes, all your existing medicine will be useless, so you need to re-synthesize all your antibiotics in left-hand configuration.
That typically does not happen with regular bacteria experiments, because most of what you can synthesize in the lab will be a descendant of some other well-known bacteria, which already have an appropriate medicine to treat it, and in most cases it will be effective against your new strain.
Though wouldn’t that incompatibility go both ways? Current drugs and antibodies wouldn’t work with them but wouldn’t they use the mirrored proteins for energy and functioning, thus our bodies would be of no use to them?
I’ve been wondering if bio-compatability would mean one doesn’t have a chance against the other or if it’s more like separate worlds that can only interact at a high level (like via the senses) but not at a lower level (sharing infections, food, and other biological processes).
In theory yes. In practice no one wants to try it.
Maybe?
Worth risking life as we know it just to find out, for shiggles?
The truth is, there will be somewhere that they outcompete native fauna for resources but can’t be stopped by what controls the natives, and whoops, there goes the ecosystem.
I think it would be important to know in the context of space exploration, assuming we can solve the other very hard problems standing in the way of a Star Trek future (though I’m not holding my breath lol), we’d need to know if we should stay the fuck away from any planets we find with life or if we can make contact without potentially dooming both our planet and theirs to potentially returning to the single-celled life stage.
But yeah, it is likely a real world pandora’s box.
