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And if she tries to take a position in '28, she’ll be hit with “Well, why didn’t you say that in '24?”
At no point was she ever a good candidate.
There was a really brief window right after Biden dropped out and everyone just assumed she’d do things differently where she polled strongly iirc
But then somebody asked her what she would do differently than Biden and she said (essentially), “Nothing, his policies were all completely perfect, his presidency was entirely perfect, and I am just going to try to follow his example” and then her numbers fell off a cliff and never recovered
100% that. The “What would you do different?” question tanked her.
She lost an unwinable election.
No time in American history has an incumbent quit mid-campaign and had their VP win.
No time in American history has a challenger survived an assassination attempt and lost.
No time in American history has the incumbent party won with both an economic downturn and an unpopular war.
That Harris nearly won is astounding. And since she’s eligible to run, it’s natural and sensible for her to be the default candidate.
Any 2028 contender who can’t persuade dems that they’d be better than Harris shouldn’t bother.
Anyone can cherry pick reasons one way or the other.
Trump was impeached.
He was found guilty of sexual misconduct (rape).
He was besties with a pedo and there’s plenty of evidence he himself is one.
He attempted to impede a peaceful transfer of power.
She lost to convicted felon and sex pest who was already impeached. It’s the fault of the American people as much as her own, but that’s embarrassing regardless.
It’s the fault of the American people as much as her own, but that’s embarrassing regardless.
While she was/is not perfect, the choice was quite obvious, so nearly all the blame lies with the voters.
It was completely idiotic to vote for PEDOnald. These moron magats that now tell the media they are getting completely boned economically and voted for him “because economy” are just so frustrating to watch. They think he did well in 1.0 version when all he did was manage to not completely fuck up an already good state of things. He completely bobbled Covid. And then these same idiots keep blathering about inflation under Biden, as if he pulled some lever to make inflation go up, vs. dealing with Covid fallout.
Watching these tools talk about the economy is quite something, that’s for sure.
The thing is, there isn’t supposed to be such a thing as a default candidate. We’re supposed to have a primary race where candidates come out of nowhere and try to make the case for their platform. It’s been a while since Americans got that luxury.
There is nothing saying that there shouldn’t be either. For most of American history the public had no vote or direct say in presidential primaries.
There have been no real rules outside those the parties made up. Highly centralized nations, parties, and governments are always a problem. Doubly so when the parties make up their own rules.
I mean yeah. Using FPTP from the outset of the US and then making zero rules about how parties have to govern themselves internally could have been the fatal flaw; FPTP always seems to lead to a bipolar/duopolistic state, and whenever there’s enough money that’s going to lead to a good cop/bad cop scenario.
There has not been a statistically significant number of times that those things have happened in a presidential race to say whether they contribute to winning or losing. By that logic, no time in American history has somebody won an election against a senile, elderly, white man. Biden had to drop out of the race because it’d have created a logic paradox for either of them to defeat the other in the election.
I agree with your position that even the most popular candidate we’ve had in a long time – Obama – most likely would not have won that election, but we cannot know for sure. What we do know is that if you’re up against stacked odds, then you need to maximize – over-perform – with the quality of your candidate.
I voted Harris. She was better than Trump in every conceivable way no doubt – and yes, including on Gaza and most certainly Ukraine, Climate Change, LGBTQ+ rights, etc., – but she was still just an average candidate. Can’t have average against stacked odds of billionaires putting their weight on the scales of democracy.
The only persons I think could’ve won that is probably 2016 Bernie, or Michelle Obama.
If Harris wants to run again in the Democratic Primaries, then sure, go for it. I hope we have lots to choose from. But honestly, I’d rather Michelle run.
We sure this isn’t manufacturing consent?
The article, below several “read more” clicks, does mention that it’s mostly just name recognition, and that she has a low chance of being the nominee.
But gosh it does feel icky.
What the fuck DNC
I mean this is annoying as fuck, but this is a poll of voters and has nothing to do with the DNC
Fuck no
Democrats just want nazis to take over it seems
Haven’t we decided AOC/Stewart is the strongest ticket?
/European
Yeah but, you know, Democrats.
While elements within the party want change, the party as a whole is still captured by and beholden to wealthy donors.
Controlled opposition
Never count the DNC out when they can always snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
The respondents
opt-in
professional, validated respondent panels
weighted
Yeah, all of this (along with the facts that 538 and MBFC say they have a right leaning bias and this same poll still has Trump’s approval rating at 42%) sounds like a poll of mainly upper middle class people. That might win you a Democratic primary but that’s been a recipe for crashing and burning in the general since at least 2016.
We wouldnt be here if she was a highly electable candidate. Read the room and move on.
Quit trying to make it happen
Can we get someone who is not Harris or Newsome please?
I can’t help but think these news outlets are straight up lying.
I’m on Instagram a lot. No one likes her there. They all like AOC. Everyone is aware newsome is also a sociopath.
It’s a manipulation tactic where the media pushes something to make it out like everyone else believes something so you should get on board too.
So tired of their b.s.
Harris is dumb. Despite knowing that Trump’s strategy was to tie her to Biden, she said that she would do nothing different from Biden. Andy Beshear would make a better Democratic candidate.
Oh fuck me are you serious
in a new survey from the Center for American Political Studies and the Harris Poll [bolding added]
How stupid do they think we are?!! (jk)
Wonderful. Looks like I’ll be going third party again.
Fuck you I want to transition without worry of losing my job or worse.
Won’t be perfect but it’d be fucking better than now.
She’s a shit candidate but fuck I can’t keep this up.
Would you honestly say you would be able to transition to your satisfaction under Biden?
If yes, then all power to you. Perhaps I was too harsh on him.
If no, then get a better nominee in the primary. I’m going third party unless I’m pretty confident one of the big two is serious about making things better. Mamdani, for instance.
Up until current threats, it at least felt like we had consistent improvements. I was able to get on estrogen via informed consent from planned parenthood a month before the election.
Between threats to passports and my jobs closeness to the government, updating documents, or even just having those prescriptions, could put my job or ability to flee in jeopardy.
I have officially stopped HRT and started using sublingual oil I order w/ crypto via TOR.
Our home brewers are wonderful, but as far as I can tell as someone looking to brew for personal use, most raws come from stores that mostly sell gear to jarheads, stealth shipped in from China. (Granted reputable ones test clean.)
If that hadn’t happened I’d be looking at updating my birth certificate this year.
But hey at least I’m not one of the ladies stuck in a men’s federal prison where the forced “psychiatric experiments” (conversion ‘therapy’) probably wont be the worst thing you face. Which you know, will be worse for us in the camps.
I miss my endocrinologist. I miss tracking my levels via bloodtest without anxieties about them being used to fire me or deny me exit from the country.
I want to talk to someone educated like that again before I get on prog.
I want my stupid ugly dead name off of everything.
I want to be left the fuck alone without having to deal with the fact that being like 1-2% of the population or whatever just means that a large enough majority can just decide you don’t deserve to exist.
I fucking hate it here.
