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I am convinced all the climate change predictions were WAY too generous and reality is gonna be far worse.
It will be even worse than what you’re expecting right now
Doesn’t matter what your intentions are.
Doesn’t matter what earnings you posted this quarter.
Doesn’t matter if you believe in climate change.
Doesn’t matter if you need this truck.
You’re on this rock of wind and water and it’ll do what it needs, to get back to it’s equilibrium. That might be at a level we don’t exist anymore nature is emotionless and you can’t control it.
Yeah just don’t fall into the old mistake of weather = climate. Heat waves happened before climate change as well. But our current changing climate makes them more likely to happen more often and more intense, if I am informed correctly.
It’s not high summer, and 40C is crazy. This is climate chang. Saying it’s weather is oil propaganda.
Its not one or the other, that’s overly simplistic. Using this one data point to “prove” climate change is about as honest as someone bringing a snowball into congress to prove it’s fake.
You need both to prove a sustainable point, otherwise it’s forgotten with the next cold snap. This is one extreme data point, and it helps to showcase the problem, but it is not the only one. Use it as part of a whole, not as a singular showcase.
Thats my interpretation of OPs comment.
Idk when record-breaking high temperatures are showing up weekly I think they stop being “extreme” data points
Outliers aren’t outliers anymore when all the measurements are in that range
That they’re outliers of what has been the norm for centuries is the entire point. Saying “this is the new normal” is, as you might surmise, normalizing it.
The cynic in me imagines that the media purposely promoted the longer timelines to lull people into thinking we had more time, and so there was no rush.
I think it’s more about scientists being extremely conservative with their estimates, because they know they’ll get impaled over being ‘alarmist.’
And then (effectively) fired from their job.
Also, you should check out conservative coverage. There is no timeline compression, its strait up cynicism, hostile denial.
EDIT: I forgot hand wringing. A perfect example: fairly scientific family showed me a WSJ article about how future geoengineering is going to make climate change a non-issue.
“Offended” did not begin to describe my reaction.
I’ve been reading geoengineering research papers for years, and they amount to things like:
Well, if we redirected a significant portion of the global economy to custom airplane and chemical production, we could rain sulfuric acid over the poles and wipe out all life beyond a certain latitude, and maybe counter the warming some if we keep it up… ecological implications aside, its still rather impractical, but an order of magnitude cheaper than previous proposals. Shows table.
I feel like some counters should immediately banish the speaker to sitting in the corner. “Alarmist” and “divisive” are the top two that come to mind. It’s almost always idiots not engaging with the material in good faith who pop those out.
I dunno about “divisive.” Sometimes thats a legitimate criticism, and pot-stirrers are little shits, IMO.
If someone is just trolling, sure. But usually I hear it when someone’s like “gay people should be allowed to live” and someone else goes “you’re being diViSiVe”
Well there’s no retort to that. If you’re in a debate environment where an acceptable critique is “well, these people existing is not part of our beliefs, so its not okay,” then the whole debate is rigged from the start.
The thing is each individual issue feeds the speed of the rest. Sun melting ice from above, rising sea temp melting from below and both speed the other up. There’s thousands of things like this. I’m not an expert or anything I just remember reading something like this.
Everything is fine…
AC is quite rare in France. So everyone is basically cooking alive. Except the politicians because of course their workspace has AC.
AC could add like 10°C to the streets during a heatwave, + any emissions from faulty equipment is massively more powerful than CO2
Putting AC everywhere is not a solution by any standard…
What we need is thermal insulation for the buildings
I expect climate change to be consistently worse than the mainstream predictions.
There’s a huge political incentive to err on the side of downplaying than to exaggerate, and those models should have been bad enough to make the point.
We could really use a covid-style lockdown for a few years.
Naaah. Get your lazy asses back to the office… so its market value doesn’t decrease.
Also, no wind turbines or any such humbug in our neighborhood… so we can keep increasing rents. Which we, the boomers, decided ourselves, through collective hypnosis. Also, what’s with this freeloader mentality? Imagine if any of the hoi-polloi could simply use wind and sun. Like, for themselves.But this time no cure until we wipe out all the anti mask/ anti vaccine idiots first
And “AI” idiots who insist on burning entire areas just to generate shrimp Jesus memes
Ai data centres used about 0.5% of global electricity production last year. Electricity production is about 26,000 TWh annually, versus total energy production of 185 TWh annually, so AI was about 0.07% of all energy consumption. Energy production causes the bulk of greenhouse emissions: 73.2%, putting AI on 0.05% (this is unfair to AI, because electricity is cleaner than the average energy production which includes just burning gas for heat).
In comparison, trying to find something small on https://ourworldindata.org/ghg-emissions-by-sector my favourite comparison is that energy for making paper consumes more than 10x as much as does AI.
A large TV might consume about 100W while on, so 100Wh to watch for an hour. To reach the same consumption with AI, you’d need to run about 55 expensive (the upper estimate I found was 6700J - I assume this means long coding answers, research or image generation) chatgpt queries.
Personally I think it unlikely that someone would reach that 1 prompt per minute at that expensive estimate, so all yourself: is AI really “burning entire areas” compared to just watching TV?
It has it’s problems but this is a moral panic.
It all well and good comparing data centre energy usage with global production. But you miss out the important reality that a good chunk of the data centres running today and in the near future are using fossil fuel power on-site, without a grid connection, which is so much worse.
Be honest. Even if every single data centre did that, would it worse enough to really change the picture? It’s still going to be less than paper production by a long way for a long while.
However there is sharp growth in demand being predicted and I don’t see any sign of humanity trading in some other power usage to get their data center power allocation. Even if we’re are greening the grid it is all for nothing if the extra capacity has to be filled in by more fossil fuels.
Yes, about 12% per year these days. Not enough to really change the picture for a long time, though.
And the fascist oligarchs. Maybe lock em in submarines and drown the lot of em.
We don’t need a covid-style lockdown to do that. Just saying.
The anti-mask/no jab people were convinced to be dangerous by billionaire propaganda.
Genocide is cool so long as it’s targeting the people I think are vile and sub-human.
Yeah, the people with the blood clots, myocarditis, infertility, and skyrocketing rates of ass cancer are the smart ones.
They knew that COVID is stopped by a mask, except you’re sitting down at a restaurant.
They get COVID again and again because the vaccine works!
This is one of the reasons my spouse and I opted to not have kids. This place is doomed.
Dude I feel so incredibly guilty for bringing my kids into this horror. You’re doing the right thing.
Given that overpopulation likely contributes to climate change, you’re also doing your part for those who do have to live through this hellscape!
Chat are we cooked??
Slow cooked until our meat falls off the bone…
Chat we’re not just cooked we are battered and deep fried.
”salivates in southern US”
You shouldn’t needlessly salivate. That water is needed for datacentres.
Oh yea my bad, umm what if I salivate Brawndo? It’s got electrolytes
ChatGPT, how do I cook a climate? Please respond in Old English and rhyme
Tis better the weather threw back into flight
A cyclone, a tempest, a sky without blight
As a Person Living In France, I can confirm it feels like someone put an oven in every room. Even places with A/C mostly can’t keep up with the heat. The only safe space is the car with working A/C.
We are rapidly reaching temperatures where life becomes impossible, and we’ll need to be indoors from May to October. And we are just getting started.
If people can live in the desert then life isn’t impossible. Tear down the buildings built for the old climate and build new purpose built structures. Find new times of the day to get outside. It’s not impossible unless you insist on not changing.
shades rigged up between opposing buildings over a street should be a thing
Yeah, I’ve been checking in on my friends in europe, stay safe stay cool.
I work in HVAC, maybe I should move to Europe…
So I was curious about this, and asked my barber (yesterday) how much the aircon he had installed was.
I was told the unit costs (~£1600) were exceeded by the install/labour, and that all they did was the unit fitting & plumbing/pipe to the external unit. An electrician had to be separately hired to wire it all up.
So I’m conservatively guessing somewhere around 3.5k all in.
For one of those normal units, I’d estimate as about 70x25cm, cooling an area less than my living room.
I’d say anyone looking for a trade in the UK right now, would be wise to skill up on doing it as a one stop shop, and cash in for the next decade.
Portland, Oregon, in °C (cause I never learned Fahrenheit)
It’s not typically known for being a hot place, but this is just the weather report for today.
We’re so very fucked.
(yes watch is in Japanese cause that’s what I grew up speaking and I don’t want to lose it despite having pretty good English, get off my back)
Edit: and then I checked the weather report for later. We’re not cooked, temporarily. Grand scheme of things, thoroughly fucked. But the eye of the storm feels nice.
I’ve lived within an hour or so of Portland my entire life, and 24C (75F) has always been a reasonable temperature for late June
Yeah, I’m not looking forward to the oncoming parade of 40s in July though.
Highs in the 30s in June is icky though.
Hey friend, you sound like you’ve had a rough time with people trying to get you to “integrate” or some such. Your choices of how you experience the world and technology aren’t any one else’s concern and whatever they are, they are valid. I live and work in highly international environments and basically everyone prefers their native tongue for things like computer/phone interface.
Fuck the haters, stay cool, peace out ✌️
I learned English when I was eleven and spent my twenties and thirties masking as yet another basic white American chick, and then in my late thirties I realized that just cause I’m not the exact ethnicity I needed to be for my childhood to be easily believable (white kid growing up on an Air Force base in rural Japan) that I didn’t need to hide it, and that I should celebrate who I was when I was barely a meter tall, thirty years ago. I try my best to keep up my Japanese, but I don’t look like someone who speaks it, which is great when I overhear people shit talking me for being trans or whatnot.
I could take an hour and learn Fahrenheit, but I just don’t want to. I know Fahrenheit for values over 300 anyway: set oven to the number on the box.
さあ、しょうがないね。
(dear solitary downvoter: I’m interpreting your solitary downvote as me explaining my reasoning for why I am how I am, and you just saying “no” with no further context or detail. It was folks like you that caused me to mask up and hide my past for so long. In conclusion, go fuck yourself, solitary downvoter. I’m not gonna fade out of existence, or go back to pretending I like cappuccino and Blazers, just cause you said “no.”)
Future is way hipper than we expected it to be.
To be fair the chart on top suggests that it gets so much warmer that they had to revise the colours.
Well of course major climate change occurs when you flatten all the terrain.
I hate modern graphics, it sucked the art out of everything digital.
