• ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org
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    4 days ago

    Interesting, considering (motorized) public transit is not that old, and bikes are even newer (cca 80 and 20 years prior to the automobile, respectively, depending on location)

    • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I think you missed the part where they are lying to the conservatives to get them on board with things that are actively good for them

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        I wouldn’t call it lying. The traditional means of transportation is walking, people have been doing it for thousands of years.

        • atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone
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          Unfortunately, conservatives are known to claim that things that have been happening for thousands of years are actually new

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            “Beware The GO-WOKE-GO-BROKE Walking Lobby©®™ Y’all! Theyre trying to tell us to start walking more like our ancestors did. Sometimes you can walk to a oublic transport spot! Or sometimes you dont AND THEN ITS FREE!? Wot?! And…wait…”

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        Reframing a topic in verbiage that’s amenable to your audience isn’t lying, it’s just not being a moron who knows how to talk to people.

      • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org
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        I know people do that and while this reframing is not exactly a lie, it’s interesting it works even when they are lumping walking (Homo erectus) and buses, trains, trams and presumably bikes (all 19ᵗʰ century) while excluding cars (basically early 20ᵗʰ century)

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          If all transport was bikes, trains and trams - you most likely still can get everywhere by foot. If all transport was cars - not neccessarily; is what I think is the main thing that separates it from straight up deception

        • kestrel7_7@lemmy.world
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          3 days ago

          Is every tradition from before agriculture? “Traditional” doesn’t mean “from the time before homo sapiens.”

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      Yeah but public transit was a lot more affordable for most people for a long time. It was pretty recently that it became normal for most people to own a car.

    • kestrel7_7@lemmy.world
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      IIRC Paris had horse-drawn omnibuses back in the 1600’s, but then they were banned by the aristocracy.