• floo@retrolemmy.com
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    I find it more upsetting that this publication acts as if this is the first time this is ever happened. worse, that the people of this country actually think that this is the first time this has ever happened in the United States.

    It isn’t. This is the fourth or fifth time this has happened here.

    How could anyone possibly be surprised by this? How fucking stupid are you?

    When the electorate becomes lazy and complacent, fascism will always try to take hold. “The people” have no one to blame but themselves. Ourselves.

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    Jesus fucking Christ. These pieces of shit are really feeling emboldened now, like there’s not going to be any opposition to stop them. We need to make fucking sure these pieces of shit are left cowering in their homes, and afraid to be out in society. Removed from the herd.

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      Unfortunately half the US agrees with him and the other half is a bunch of pants-pissing cowards.

  • Nobody@anarchist.nexus
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    A lot of the founding concepts of the US from the Declaration of Independence were inspired by earlier native treaties among indigenous nations. Even the highest ideals the US was created to strive for had roots in Native American ideologies.

    The entire concept as a nation for over two centuries has been to take in immigrants from everywhere and create a melting pot culture where everyone makes new lives together.

    The idea that the US is a white ethnostate is staggeringly ignorant of both history and present reality.

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    I’m sorry, but the article starts with “Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, on this continent, a new nation,…" in its first paragraph.

    That statement in and of it’s self screams of a white, conquering, nation building colonial power.

    He may be saying the quite bit out aloud, but your nation was built on death and repression of an already existing group of peoples.

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          Every country is built upon the bones of the oppressed. Why pick and choose?

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            I’m not. My country is pretty fucked in this regard - but at least we acknowledge and are <semi> trying to work to right some of those wrongs

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              Can you guarantee generations after you will continue to do that or won’t backtrack on that work? Because the US did do what you’re saying in the past.

              Point is, you’re judging a country’s entire history from a position you’re in at the current moment in time. A position which isn’t guaranteed to last.

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                Can you guarantee generations after you will continue to do that or won’t backtrack on that work? Because the US did do what you’re saying in the past.

                No I can’t, and our current government seems to bet trying thier best to roll back some of the gains of the last 20-30 years.

                Point is, you’re judging a country’s entire history from a position you’re in at the current moment in time. A position which isn’t guaranteed to last.

                And the twat in the OP is being held up as a right wing white rule type. He has spoken their quiet parts out aloud, but the article in question starts with Abraham Lincoln’s “Gettysburg Address”, (that is problematic in it’s self) as the counterpoint to the current governing right. I’m calling that out as being a nation building colonial speech.

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                I am just curious, do you consider the reverse to be a realistic possibility?

                The US formally becoming a chauvinistic, fake-Christian, oligarch/mafia state, with no real democracy (the Russians nominally do have elections) for the next 30-50 years.

                The only reason I ask is that my centre-right friends from the US have mentioned things like “Well, we had the gilded age, and we made it through.”

                While the above is true, there are also other key historical events to consider like the great depression, global rise of fascism and WW2.