• Broken_Orange_Juice@lemmy.world
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    Excuse my young unmarried self, but I use the reason “I don’t feel like it” to not do all sorts of things. Why would sex with my partner be any different?

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      If it goes on particularly long it can become a “hey, my needs aren’t being met, can we talk this out” situation. Going a long period with your partner not wanting to have sex can fuck with your head even when there’s good reason and sexual incompatibility is a perfectly valid reason to walk away from an otherwise healthy relationship.

      But also yes, “I’m not in the mood” is a perfectly valid reason until it hits the point of someone’s needs not being met, and it remains a perfectly valid reason not to have sex after, it’s just that I’ve got no judgment for someone walking away over it when it gets to that.

      Having reasons just shifts the needs into a needs vs responsibilities conversation and opens the situation to more sympathy. “I haven’t felt like having sex with you this year” can be kinda devastating and can lead to questions like why and will this be normal. “I’ve been in a depressive episode and not had the mental energy to want sex for this past year” still sucks but it cuts out the fear that it’s something wrong with you and addresses that the situation is ideally temporary. By contrast “I’ve been questioning if I’m asexual because I don’t know if I ever really wanted sex, or just wanted to want it” serves as a very good reason, but one where it becomes clear that this is unlikely to be a temporary situation and allows the other partner the agency to decide if they want to stay in a relationship where sex is either off the table or a rare occurrence or if it’s time to look at the possibility of amicable separation.

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      It’s a fine reason, if it’s not every day for two weeks running. You make sacrifices for your spouse. Mine likes early morning sex. I hate everything on the planet in the early morning, but I’ll soldier through it almost always for her when she’s horny. She probably isn’t overjoyed while giving me BJs, even though she’s quite good at it, and yet she offers them up pretty regularly.

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        Toxic as fuck mentality.

        No one is entitled to the body of another just because they desire it. People have the responsibility to cope with their own emotions and impulses.

        If anyone tells you that you have to sacrifice your boundaries, they are being abusive and manipulative. Fuck that shit.

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          Bruh. Read what you wrote and take a look in the mirror. You are destined for failure after failure in relationships if you can’t escape from your own ego.

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            No need for a relationship if there isn’t mutual consent and healthy boundaries. Without those, the relationship was a failure to begin with.

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          You are talking about marriage, though. If both didn’t agree to it (eg, arranged marriage, or coerced) they should split. If they agreed to it but under different expectations of sex, they should talk it over, and in all likelihood they should split.

          He’s not saying sex should be guaranteed, but if people have already taken an agreement the agreement should either mean something, or be anulled, with no specific preference to either.

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            Marriage doesn’t entitle one to the body of another. It is toxic and manipulative to coerce a partner into giving up access to their body out of some arbitrary social obligation. No one should ever feel obligated to give up their bodily autonomy for another against their will.

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              He still has his bodily autonomy and is doing things fully consenting. It’s just a small sacrifice, doesn’t mean it isn’t consenting. Besides sex, you should make sacrifices in a relationship, within certain boundaries of course.

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                19 hours ago

                Being coerced into capitulating to the demands of another out of a manipulative and abusive social obligation is not the same as consent. Fuck that unhealthy, toxic nonsense.

                Respect the boundaries of others. Period.

                No, if your relationship demands you sacrifice your boundaries, that is an unhealthy relationship. Partners should respect your boundaries, not ask you to sacrifice them for their comfort. Fuck that.

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                  I never said you should breach your boundaries. But, if your partner wants chocolate cake and you don’t, but it isn’t much of a hassle then you can make your partner some chocolate cake. It’s just going out of your way to do something for someone else.

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                    Grabbing someone a chocolate cake is not the same as sacrificing your bodily autonomy to let them fuck you when you are not in the mood for sex. How fucking disingenuous