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That’s like…a normal thing, right? Right?? Cause you can see if you made a mistake, if you actually said what you wanted to say and not some gibberish instead…right?? I’m normal, aren’t I???

TMI, trauma tangent

I have…bad thoughts. Sometimes. Well, pretty often. They’re the kind of thoughts that people who went through horrible things sometimes have. Thoughts that…are supposed to make them “feel in control” of what’s happened to them, if I understand it correctly.

But…I don’t remember anything. I don’t think I have any trauma. As hard as I try to search my memory, nothing comes up. Nothing like that, nothing traumatizing. Nothing “bad”. And that’s why it doesn’t make sense to me. I don’t know why I’m like this.

I mean the only thing I remember is my step-dad very briefly groping my ass when we were getting off the subway when I was younger, but that’s it. And I don’t even feel any trauma from that. Nothing bad happened to me. And still they won’t stop…

I should get a therapist…

  • untorquer@quokk.au
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    Abusers choose language where the meaning behind it is coercive. It makes it hard to convey emotional meaning with someone who had to learn these survival skills. One might be seeking connection and that intent sits in the same space where others seeking to manipulate placed theirs.

    It’s normal to have that style of communication and simultaneously feel gas-lit by people speaking with decent intent.

    For the other stuff therapy can be effective if you get the right therapist and imo not someone peddling sympathy.

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    Sometimes its the other way around. I prefer texts because I’m a visual learner… and visual formats being handy for maintaining accountability and avoiding abuse are a convenient byproduct. But I was a visual learner first.

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    I can’t talk on the phone at all because of trauma and autistic fear of being perceived. I don’t know if you’re neurodivergent, but if you are, I’ve read that neurodivergent people are much more sensitive to trauma. A seemingly normal event that wouldn’t be traumatizing for neurotypical can traumatizing for neurodivergent people. The fact that you can’t remember also suggests you might have trauma. Either way, sending you all of the internet hugs, feel better!

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      Thank you girlie 🫂
      I don’t think I’m neurodivergent. I’m not exactly normal, but I think I’m just weird :P
      With all my flaws and quirks, it probably must really seem like I have a bit of the 'tism, but I don’t think I do.
      In any case, thank you 💜

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    In my case, it’s not trauma, just anxiety [Texting lets me spend an inordinately long time revising even the simplest of messages to make sure there’s absolutely no way it will be misinterpreted]

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    I’ve sort of been the victim of the opposite of this, where me and my then-partner communicated primarily over text (IRC, because we’re old) and they just had a way better memory for such things than I did and could whip out a timestamp for anything they happened to remember which I did not. Made me a bit unhappy because normally both of you get hazy on details and are equal in having to wing it.

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    Used to record every phone call with my parents so I could play back their own words when they said they didn’t say something, and my words when they said I said something I didn’t.

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      I’m from the generation we didn’t have 📱.
      It was the family☎️, or pass/drop encoded messages.
      I am glad we have the technology now to show them who they really are.

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    In my lived experiences pure negative feedback is equally traumatizing as intermittent verbal beratement.

    I am sexually attracted to individuals who fit a set of certain phenotypes but in persuing sexual relationships with these people I got nothing but negative feedback. I’m not going into specifics bc that doesn’t matter here. The point is that now physical attraction doesn’t matter to me and am yes finally having sex…

    I guess what I’m trying to say is that you shouldn’t feel bad when people hate you for solving a problem they wanted. Of course they’d hate you for not letting them say whatever they want to you whenever, you’re literally not letting them do something, you’re like taking something, emotionally. Granted they shouldn’t want to do that in the first place which is how we solve the problem.

    If I don’t want to be the kind of person who limits everyone who talks to me to texts then I’ll remove people who necessitate that from me. I don’t need to speak if I can’t speak safely, just like I don’t need to drive if I’ve had a few beers. Sharing information about me isn’t the important thing, what’s most important is that I feel supported in the way I need and that means I don’t talk to anyone or everyone.

    For those who live a life where they can’t remove the problems my advice is to take a more information theory approach, you can speak lots of words while conveying no meaning, it’s a skill. It involves developing a deep and intimate comprehension of the midwits comprehension of the entropy of nature language. Some people are just smart enough to realize that words are arbitrary sounds and if they consistently mean the same thing when they say the same word they can redefine it as they wish, biggest victim of this is “think”, “think” can mean billions of things there’s no reliable way to know so don’t know, don’t care that do “think”, do “think” yourself.

    Consistently mean what you mean.

    Take things from people that they don’t need like: bad behaviors and hierarchy and traditions and history and systems. Trillions of people have lived long and healthy lives without many of the things we have today and a lot of those things aren’t needed take them.

    Govern the information that you emit on an informational level; instead of answering “why are you wearing that” with an explanation just say “it is already on me” and if that lack of information causes a fight let it. You only selected the amount of information you emitted you have no control or the reaction (having control would imply that there is a min amount of info you should emit which there just isn’t source am a person)

    And in doing these things I have found my life improving. Idk about you but I hope you do too.

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    It’s really normal. I had to switch to text only with my ex-husband for these exact reasons. The gaslighting was intense and it can be so hard to get a sense of reality within a relationship like that.

    It was lovely to be able to go in and delete some of the screenshots recently though. It’s been long enough that I felt safe to let it go <3

    Therapy helps! I’d strongly encourage exploring some options. It’s not a bullet-proof solution, but therapy can really, really help.

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      I’m glad it works for you, girlie 💜️
      Works for me super well.

      And therapy…yeah. I desperately need it. I have…actual problems. I should try to get better…
      Take care girl ❤️

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    Not just trauma control, but overall a great way to carefully review your thoughts, have editors review it, proofread, improve it, etc…

    I fell in the dark tetrad category of upbringing, so me an my siblings learned to control information pretty quick. DNA donors always ask “why won’t my kids call/visit/send letters” etc., without consulting a family therapist why we are withdrawn/estranged. Sooo many publications, so many videos. Nope, rebound to the same old Machiavellian DARVO tactics. Now my 🥚🧬 “wants to know how I am doing.” I told 🥚🧬 how 🥚🧬 will do so, & at my leisure.

    Siblings trust each other4life though. Did I ever mention one of my sibs is still wanted by IA? E’ll never be able to repay me for that😤

    re: TMI, trauma tangent

    I should get a therapist

    If you can afford it, always. No doubt’it

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    your trauma tangent sounds a bit like cptsd, i am not a psychologist, but that’s something i carry around.

    there is no shame in going to therapy, it does not mean one is broken, it only means that one wants to get better.

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      Seconding this. When the trauma/bad experiences are so never ending, subtle, and latent it’s hard to pinpoint it to exact moments. This includes anything from being treated poorly by family/friends/various societal structures to other causes of chronic stress (illnesses, dysphoria, etc.)

      It’s also a compounding upset because you can’t name specific events so you feel like you’re overreacting, but you’re not. Your experiences are valid, OP. Offering internet hugs if you want them 🫂