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    LOL that fat fuck Vance has zero charisma, therefore will not be POTUS. Americans want a celebrity.

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    I can’t wait to see South Park having to put their version of Vance into the Oval Office.

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      He certainly doesn’t seem to be doing anything else useful…and I’m glad of that. A competent Vance would be far worse than what America has now.

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    Wishing Mr. Vance a speedy transition to power. Preferably like, tonight.

    Wishing for the rest of the world he has a speedy transition right back out of power. Preferably like, very slightly later, also tonight.

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      I’ve said from the beginning that one way or another he’d be out right after the midterms (so Vance could have 2 full terms after taking over this one), but maybe il Douche isn’t gonna be able to make it that long. The main thing Vance et. al. have to make sure of is that everything happens in a way that the base will accept as legit and won’t interpret as a coup or conspiracy against Daddy.

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      Evil people always last longer than you think. I’m not sure whether Trump is actually evil or the evil is a byproduct of extreme narcissism combined with staggering stupidity.

      I heard a theory the other day that the thing that makes Trump Trump is that he speaks on a fourth grade level because he’s just that dumb. He politically engages people who are too ignorant and disinterested in politics to do more than check Trump’s name and ignore other Republican candidates. I saw it here in my own state where was something like an 800k vote discrepancy between Trump and conservative Supreme Court candidates. It’s why districts that Trump won by double digits flip hard for Dems in special election’s and non-presidential elections.

      What that means is, when Trump dies, the Republican Party is pretty much fucked if they haven’t achieved full on fascism by then. I’m not smart enough to know whether that theory is correct, but I really want it to be.

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      Fingers crossed! JD will not be as batshit. He wants to keep the job and not get bounced from the top spot next election.

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        JD will not be as batshit.

        Considering his connections to Peter Thiel I’m not so sure about that. But what matters is that he won’t be able to wield the cult of personality that has formed around Trump the way Trump can.

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          Exactly.

          JD is scary due to the thiel connection.

          He’s very unlikable though imo. He doesn’t have the charisma trump has (not genuine charisma, but like an arrogant bullying charisma that MAGA is attracted to). Hopefully this alone would work against him.

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            To be fair, though, Trump is deeply unlikable for many people. I’ve had almost a physical reaction to hearing him speak or seeing him since his debates against Hillary. He’s always seemed gross and slimy to me.

            In other words, just because you and I see JD as unlikable doesn’t mean that MAGA will also find him unlikable. In fact, Vance’s approval rating among republicans is 89% favorable while among democrats it is 3% favorable as of the beginning of August.

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              Yeah well he also doesn’t have the full responsibility of this admins actions either.

              Once he’s the lightning rod for this unpopular crap he’ll have nowhere to hide.

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          This, this, this! Trump attracts people in a unique way, the same way that Hitler attracted people. Vance doesn’t have that charisma. His ascension would fracture the party. There’s folks who are willing to buck him, not Trump. It is the best shot we have at normalcy.

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          People keep saying MAGA falls apart when Trump dies, but what I’m not seeing is what people think all these supporters will do? Surely we’re not thinking they’ll suddenly deconvert until reasonable people or even what used to be Republicans.

          If we’re really honest, this is what the Republican party has been building up to for decades. I’m trying to see the optimism that they’ll just go back in the box but I’m just not seeing it

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            I’m not optimistic about them “going back in the box” as it were but that fracture into competing factions will allow more reasonable leaders to get it. Kinda how Bernie was winning before moderates unified behind Biden but sorta in reverse.

            Trump won the R primary in 2016 and 2024 because the others didn’t unify.

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            I don’t think they’ll deconvert. I do hope they will become apathetic without their “charismatic” leader. I don’t think Vance will be able to hold people’s attention as well or rile them up to the same degree.

            Side note: Calling Trump “charismatic” makes me want to vomit, but apparently he is for some people…

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          I see people keep saying this but why does it even matter anymore? They already have the power, they already tested camps, they already have troops deployed, he can do what he wants and still control the narrative like they are now

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          I hope you are right, but I don’t know MAGA won’t latch onto a new cult of personality just as easily. The right wing info bubble is a well oiled consent machine and they know how to push the right cultural buttons. Vance is better spoken and has gained a lot of MAGA love under Trump. I worry if Trump dies before he erodes his support too far, it will solidify MAGA under a better equipped leader.

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        JD also doesn’t have as much of the crazy vote. Some people find trump charismatic, and find he can do no wrong, while JD chaises that charisma while lounging on the couch like a Lay-z-boy.

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            Does anybody still remember that short moment just before the last election when it looked like Trump wouldn’t run?
            They were all at each others throats in an instant. It was a sight to behold. So yeah, finding someone who binds both his constituency and his underlings in the same way Trump does could be impossible.

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              Whole lotta lazy low-info dumbasses voted for Taco because he had that game show, too. People more aware knew who and what Taco was since at least the 80s, but the low-info? Not so much. They really do think that the broke-ass, self-promoting dumbfuck failson was a bigly important businessman instead of the low-life fraud who was thirsty to be accepted by the Manhattan elite his entire grifting life. Of course this same exact kind of lazy thinking leads to them thinking a businessman would be good to lead a democratic country, and I don’t know which makes me want to face-palm harder…

              Not sure if there are any cons in the running that had that kind of boost from the “liberal media” where a failed “businessman” was given a game show to host and launch into the national spotlight…

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        He’s still batshit, just in a better-tailored suit.

        The good news is the MAGA crowd don’t have fanatical loyalty to him.

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        What?

        JD and his wife were groomed to be the Republican version of the Clinton’s…

        They were literally set up by the “Tiger Mom” who’s an ivy league law professor, then the wife was given SC clerkships.

        They are 1000x more dangerous than trump, in no small part because they won’t be as blatant.

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          I don’t discount that argument, but my hope/expectation is without the base and therefore without undying tacit support from congress, the threat posed by Vance isn’t as much as a live Trump.

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        A puppet cannot have qualities such as being more or less batshit.

        Do not mistake the intelligence of the puppeteer as belonging to the homunculus itself.

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        JD is Peter Thiel’s errand boy and Thiel wants to collapse of nation states and social programs. His goal is corporate network states with the rich living completely removed from regulations on their power in any way. JD Vance may not be as erratic but he is just as dangerous.

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        One thing I’ve learned since 2020: Mango Mussolini has laid the groundwork for potentially much worse successors. More coherent. Not sure JD is it, but it could happen.

        Honestly I hope MM will survive the collapse of his country. In my mind it’s a better scenario than someone taking over who actually knows how to do the bidding of his tech-bro neoliberal fascist puppeteers.

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        Ahahahahaha! You guys are fukt. JD is a bigger puppet than Strumpf. And a whole lot less likeable if that’s at all possible?!

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          He’s a puppet, but he can’t build the groundswell of support that Trump can.

          There’s a very short list of dictators who successfully transition the government to their choosen successor and have them stay in the long run. It’s North Korea, and not a lot else.

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      One last grift: on his deathbed, Trump received the light of Islam and unhesitatingly recited the Shahāda

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        Fuckin lol

        Imagining the Christian nationalists losing their mind; that would be iconic.

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          Eh. Trump isn’t a christian by their definition now. He could find Krishna on his deathbed and they’ll still make pilgrimages to his grave, expecting him to rise up as their saviour.

          They don’t care about his beliefs or actions. All that matters is their own fear, anger, and hate. That’s all this has really been about. Not ideals, not standards, and certainly not reality.

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            Trump isn’t a christian by their definition now.

            Yes he is. He doesn’t go to church. He doesn’t know what’s in the bible. He’s self-centred, greedy, and hateful to those who are different. He’s exactly like the Christians that worship him.

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              Right, most of them are like that.

              He’s objectively a christian, but not by their idealised definition. They can’t see they’re also all of those things, because they’ve perverted the meanings of right and wrong, ‘good’ and ‘evil’, and what morality is.

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          I don’t think they’d give a shit at this point.

          Whatever he does must be right and he must be obeyed; he is now their God. They’ll come up with some explanation for why it was clever or something.

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    Hint here could go one of two ways. First is that Trump’s health is fully expected to fail soon. The second is that Peter Thiel would see Vance as being less of a problem to control, and would tell Vance to pull the trigger on the 25th amendment regardless of Trump’s actual health.

    That said, this article is a bit overblown. Vance was asked about the President’s health, and gave a pretty standard line any VP would say in the same position.

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      would tell Vance to pull the trigger on the 25th amendment

      The GOP need Trump to keep the rabid racists cooperating. That’s their messiah.

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        You and I know that. Thiel and Vance might think they can control MAGA without Trump. They’re wrong, but that’s never stopped them before.

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          Thiel and all the other fascists will just pay all the grifters influencers to push propaganda like they always do.

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      He’s saying he’s ready. He’s not explaining how government works.

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    “The president is in incredibly good health,” Vance insisted to USA Today. “He’s got incredible energy.”

    And these assholes wanted to “investigate” the Democrats for saying this kind of thing about Biden? At least I’ve seen Biden ride a bike. Having a golf cart shuttle you around on a course ain’t anything.

    I’d love to see mr. “incredible energy” try to ride a bike right now, LOL.

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        I was a poor kid. Never learned to swim. Had a bike until it broke, but was so long ago that I’ve never owned a bike helmet.

        I think Trump had more money.

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          I try not to be judgemental about such things. Everyone has different circumstances in life that might have prevented them from learning those skills. My fiancee, now in her 30’s, has never owned a bicycle and was never taught. She had a poor upbringing and so the funds were never there for her to be able to learn.

          But man, I sure do wonder about the people whose parents did have the financial means for bike riding and swim lessons. Either the parents didn’t show any interest in teaching their kid how to do it, or the kid was not interested in leaning. Either way, it’s not really a good reflection on either the parents or the kid.

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      But if he doesn’t use a golf cart to taverse the golf course, he will drain his battery out quicker.